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One less JS-III monument in Ukraine
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:31 pm
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeZ3VpDc0YQ According to the Anti-Maidan facebook page they did get it running - sounds horrible in this video - and was used against Ukrainian forces...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:41 pm
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well, well...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:57 pm
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So I guess the idea of demilling has no Russian translation? I recall this happened during at least a few other Eastern European uprisings with similar monument tanks, too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:22 pm
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A bit like that ISU152 that was started up a few years ago.
Its barrel had a slot gas-axed into it.
Amazing blacksmith engineering, sit it on a pedastal for what, 40 years? and it starts without a complete strip down.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:11 pm
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I read somewhere that they are using 122mm ammunition from the D-30 howitzer for it.
Here is a picture of the tank. Painted on the fuel tank is the slogan "To Lvov" (a stronghold of the certain "choir boys").

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:32 pm
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Costas,
IMO, let's keep the politics out of this discussion - including throwing around the term "Nazis"
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:54 am
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Its a fact, not politics. besides, it explains the slogan.

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Costas,
Reasonable people disagree on the subject. I could go into it further, but the fact is this is not the place for such discussions.

One could say alternatively that Lvov is a stronghold of Ukrainian nationalists without throwing around such a loaded & charged term. There's also Godwin's law to consider.

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OK, I'll edit my post accordingly.

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Costas,
Reasonable people disagree on the subject. I could go into it further, but the fact is this is not the place for such discussions.

One could say alternatively that Lvov is a stronghold of Ukrainian nationalists without throwing around such a loaded & charged term. There's also Godwin's law to consider.

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thanks for mentioning the Godwin's law, I didn't know that it existed.

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