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January 29th Sunday flight :: Archived
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Uhu_Rodion
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:59 am
Post subject: January 29th Sunday flight

It seems Siberia is not exactly a welcoming place: at Yelizovo I found we were at a dead end, with almost no navigation aids, no VOR's and a scant few short range NDB's, no airfields within hundreds and hundreds of miles... let alone ILS'! Neutral

After a couple of days mumbling about what to do, I gave up hoping to inaugurate the Spartan, and also the Howard didn't fit the task. In the end, I decided to cut short and point directly towards Japan; but in order to do so, we need a more prosaic Boeing jet-liner, just for this flight... well, some of you might like the idea, expecially since I totally forgot how to handle it, and this will inevitably add some sparkles to your fun Wink

I swear next time we'll use the Spartan, and for several more flights to come Cool

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#58 UHPP Yelizovo (Russia) -> UHSS Khomutovo (Russia)
Overall distance: 728,6 nm.
Estimated time: 1:35 h.

UHPP
MK (Petrpavlovsk) - no VOR - NDB 345,0 kHz - HDG 292° - leg 33,6 nm.
UB (Ust-Blosheretsk) - no VOR - NDB 907,0 kHz - HDG 243° - leg 54,6 nm.
SENOR - Intersection - HDG 237° - leg 17,0 nm.
PW (Sokol) - no VOR - NDB 260,0 kHz - HDG 249° - leg 599,5 nm.
CF19 - Intersection - HDG 199° - leg 12,0 nm.
PI (Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk) - no VOR - NDB 680,0 kHz - HDG 191° - leg 8,0 nm.
UHPP - no VOR - HDG 191° - leg 4,0 nm.
elevation: 59 ft.
runways:
1 – concrete – 10.945 ft. – no ILS
19 – concrete – 10.945 ft. – no ILS

Aircraft: stock Boeing 737-400 500
Cruise speed: 470 KIAS
Cruise altitude: 10.000 ft.
Weather: real
Time: 09:00 local – 23:00 GM



The package including flight plan, bigger map, kml file for Google Earth and text file with navigation data can be downloaded here:
-> 216.176.86.154/marco/f...CC_058.zip


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Shadow_Bshwackr
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:24 pm
Post subject: Re: January 29th Sunday flight

Ahhh, the smell of jet fuel in the morning!...:D

Sorry I won't be there fellas, I have an important, can't miss meeting that day. Cya for the next one though and take pics..:chug:
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Uhu_Fledermaus
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:01 pm
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I would like to suggest flt lvl 250 -300
at flt lvl 100 max speed is 250 kts................
and maybe we could use the 737-700 exp we mostly have for this occasions
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:27 pm
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Sounds like a plan. I haven't flown the 737 exp yet, so I look forward to it. I definately plan to be there this week. I will be making that catchup flight this evening from Alaska to Russia

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:37 pm
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Good for me the 737-700, and agreed on the suggested altitude - after all, you're the boss when it comes to drive us, Fled Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:06 pm
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damn ,,,,,,,once again I was able to make it for a flight and ended up watching something on T.V. and completely forgot,,,,,,,poooooooot

but anyways,,,,just 2 weeks ago when I went on holidays I flew westjet both ways.....by the looks of it the entire fleet is the 737-700,,,,and I must admit I dont fly a whole lot but thankfully it was a short flight......what a plane,,,,,,I was most impressed ,,,,all the seat headrests have sattelite T.V.,,,,,,thats new to me by the way......,,,leather seats with those great little cupping headthingys so the stinky prick next to you dont decide your shoulder is a great pillow....the flight was that short that by the time we got to 32k it was 4 minutes until we started the decent....I guess that little realtime GPS thing I was watching was groundspeed and not indicated seeing as we were travelling at around 500 mph........and one other thing I noticed that I never seen before or just didnt pay attention,,,,,but the frontside of the wings actually have some sorta curving flap thing,,,,,,what the hell is that thing called,,,,,?

all in all,,,,,being my first time in years flying,,,,going on the 700 series was kinda cool seeing as I have the 737 experience in my FS9 and its by bird of choice when flying passenger jets....

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:36 pm
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Hey Hoppa......I fly on a 737 or MD-80 about every, or at least every other, week nowadays....wanna take some flights for me?? Please?

The curvy thing in front is a leading edge slat, gives a bit more curve and lift...interesting fact, your ol' Bf109 has those too, spring-loaded to pop out at low speeds.....gosh who comes up with this great stuff? Oh...never mind.......

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:08 pm
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- JG300-Hoppa
I guess that little realtime GPS thing I was watching was groundspeed and not indicated seeing as we were travelling at around 500 mph.


Right. GPS is only able to compute ground speed. Indicated is computed by the difference between the static (still) air pressure and the ram air pressure (the wind flowing over the plane). This difference is different every day at ever point on the globe, and can change because of things such as altitude, temperture, humidity, etc. There is no way to compute this kind of stuff from satellite.

- JG300-Hoppa
but the frontside of the wings actually have some sorta curving flap thing,,,,,,what the hell is that thing called,,,,,?


Stoopy's got it right. They're called slats. Actually, they are operated completely by gravity and air pressure. When the plane flies fast, they are pushed back into the normal airfoil position by the wind flow. When the plane slows down and flies at a higher angle of attack, the slat is pulled down, doing two things. Mistakingly, all most people think it does is increases the camber of the wing. However, far more importantly, it creates a tube, if you will, that allows high pressure air (relative to the air flowing over the top of the wing) from under the wing to flow through the leading edge of the wing to the top of the wing. This gives the air on the top surface of the wing more engery, and therefore, the air flow stays attached to the wing at higher angles of attack. Being able to fly at high angles of attack = slower speeds = better landings and slow flight characteristics.

That is, of course, the really dumbed down version. Ahh, the things you learn while pursuing a BS in aviation Mr. Green

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