±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 633
Total: 633
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Your Account
02: Photo Gallery
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: CPGlang
07: Community Forums
08: Photo Gallery
09: Photo Gallery
10: Photo Gallery
11: Community Forums
12: Photo Gallery
13: Member Screenshots
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Photo Gallery
21: Community Forums
22: Photo Gallery
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Photo Gallery
29: Community Forums
30: News
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Photo Gallery
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Photo Gallery
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Photo Gallery
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Photo Gallery
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Photo Gallery
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Photo Gallery
65: Member Screenshots
66: Community Forums
67: Downloads
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Photo Gallery
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Photo Gallery
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Your Account
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Photo Gallery
98: Photo Gallery
99: Your Account
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Downloads
103: CPGlang
104: CPGlang
105: Community Forums
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Photo Gallery
111: Community Forums
112: Home
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Photo Gallery
123: Community Forums
124: Home
125: Photo Gallery
126: Home
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Statistics
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Photo Gallery
133: Statistics
134: Community Forums
135: Member Screenshots
136: Photo Gallery
137: Community Forums
138: Statistics
139: Home
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Photo Gallery
146: Home
147: Home
148: Community Forums
149: Home
150: Photo Gallery
151: Community Forums
152: Photo Gallery
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Home
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Downloads
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Your Account
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Home
168: Community Forums
169: CPGlang
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Home
188: Community Forums
189: News
190: Community Forums
191: Community Forums
192: Home
193: Community Forums
194: Your Account
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Photo Gallery
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Photo Gallery
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Photo Gallery
208: Photo Gallery
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Photo Gallery
212: Photo Gallery
213: Downloads
214: Photo Gallery
215: Photo Gallery
216: Home
217: Downloads
218: Community Forums
219: Photo Gallery
220: Photo Gallery
221: News Archive
222: Photo Gallery
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Photo Gallery
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Community Forums
230: Your Account
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Photo Gallery
234: Your Account
235: Community Forums
236: Photo Gallery
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Photo Gallery
240: Downloads
241: Community Forums
242: Home
243: Home
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Photo Gallery
247: Your Account
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Photo Gallery
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Photo Gallery
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Home
259: Photo Gallery
260: Community Forums
261: Photo Gallery
262: Photo Gallery
263: Photo Gallery
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Home
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: News
273: Community Forums
274: Downloads
275: Community Forums
276: Your Account
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Home
281: Photo Gallery
282: Community Forums
283: Photo Gallery
284: Downloads
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Photo Gallery
289: Your Account
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Photo Gallery
293: Community Forums
294: Photo Gallery
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Statistics
299: Home
300: Community Forums
301: Photo Gallery
302: Photo Gallery
303: Home
304: Community Forums
305: Home
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: CPGlang
309: Home
310: Community Forums
311: Photo Gallery
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Photo Gallery
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Home
322: News
323: Photo Gallery
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Home
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Member Screenshots
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Photo Gallery
335: Community Forums
336: Home
337: Community Forums
338: Home
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Photo Gallery
345: Photo Gallery
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Home
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Photo Gallery
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Photo Gallery
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Photo Gallery
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Your Account
365: Community Forums
366: Home
367: Your Account
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Photo Gallery
371: Community Forums
372: Downloads
373: News
374: Community Forums
375: Photo Gallery
376: Community Forums
377: Downloads
378: Community Forums
379: Photo Gallery
380: Community Forums
381: Photo Gallery
382: Photo Gallery
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Photo Gallery
390: Photo Gallery
391: Community Forums
392: Downloads
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Home
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Photo Gallery
402: Photo Gallery
403: Photo Gallery
404: Community Forums
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Home
410: Photo Gallery
411: Community Forums
412: Home
413: Community Forums
414: Photo Gallery
415: Community Forums
416: Photo Gallery
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: CPGlang
421: Home
422: Community Forums
423: Photo Gallery
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Photo Gallery
427: Photo Gallery
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Downloads
433: Community Forums
434: Photo Gallery
435: Member Screenshots
436: Photo Gallery
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Search
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Downloads
445: Community Forums
446: Downloads
447: Photo Gallery
448: Community Forums
449: Home
450: Photo Gallery
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Photo Gallery
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Community Forums
457: Home
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Photo Gallery
462: Photo Gallery
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Your Account
469: Community Forums
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: CPGlang
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Member Screenshots
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Home
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Photo Gallery
487: Home
488: Community Forums
489: Photo Gallery
490: Community Forums
491: Photo Gallery
492: News
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Home
498: Community Forums
499: Community Forums
500: Home
501: Community Forums
502: Downloads
503: Community Forums
504: Community Forums
505: Community Forums
506: Downloads
507: Photo Gallery
508: Member Screenshots
509: Photo Gallery
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Photo Gallery
514: Photo Gallery
515: Your Account
516: Downloads
517: Downloads
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Member Screenshots
521: Home
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: Home
525: CPGlang
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Photo Gallery
529: Photo Gallery
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Home
535: Downloads
536: Photo Gallery
537: Photo Gallery
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Downloads
541: Home
542: Downloads
543: Photo Gallery
544: Community Forums
545: Photo Gallery
546: Photo Gallery
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Photo Gallery
550: Community Forums
551: CPGlang
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Downloads
555: Photo Gallery
556: Community Forums
557: Photo Gallery
558: Home
559: Community Forums
560: Member Screenshots
561: Photo Gallery
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Photo Gallery
565: Photo Gallery
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: CPGlang
569: Community Forums
570: Photo Gallery
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Your Account
577: Photo Gallery
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Photo Gallery
585: Community Forums
586: Downloads
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Community Forums
594: Photo Gallery
595: Home
596: Community Forums
597: Photo Gallery
598: Community Forums
599: Community Forums
600: News
601: Community Forums
602: Community Forums
603: Photo Gallery
604: Photo Gallery
605: Community Forums
606: Community Forums
607: Home
608: Photo Gallery
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Downloads
613: Photo Gallery
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Photo Gallery
617: Photo Gallery
618: Community Forums
619: Community Forums
620: Community Forums
621: Photo Gallery
622: Community Forums
623: Photo Gallery
624: Community Forums
625: Community Forums
626: Photo Gallery
627: Photo Gallery
628: Downloads
629: Photo Gallery
630: Community Forums
631: Home
632: Home
633: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:35 pm
Post subject: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm



I found this vehicle (SN 2593A) among a group of M60's that are being prepped for hard target (Final) duty. She's already been stripped pretty bad, I thought it was a shame since to my knowlege only five of these were made for the Army. There is one at the 1st CAV DIV's museum. I am trying to post a picture for the first time so I hope this works.




I spotted this Sherman behind the North Fort Hood MATES site. It looks like a former range target, all the rubber is missing from the hull and most of the hatches have been replaced with plate steel. Numbers stamped on the front left hull below.

7118
C2156
D52644

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:38 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

- Joe_D


I spotted this Sherman behind the North Fort Hood MATES site. It looks like a former range target, all the rubber is missing from the hull and most of the hatches have been replaced with plate steel. Numbers stamped on the front left hull below.

7118
C2156
D52644

Joe D


Best numbers to get are any that may be visible on the rear tow lugs. The numbers you have are probably hull stampings - which generally dont help in identification unfortunately. Any chance you can get another look?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:43 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

Neil,
I can get to it probably this afternoon, When I was last there I remembered either you or somebody else said check the tow lugs. I didn't see any numbers but I wasn't dressed for crawling around. I'll bring my coveralls this time with camera. Any other areas you'd like me to check?

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:54 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

Usually they're on the face going up to the top of the lug. Not usually on the bottom. But they're often covered in rust or seemingly not there at all.

One warning, they often dont show up well in camera shots. Best thing is to just write them down or even do an etching with pencil & paper.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:15 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm



Here's a few more angles of it.


Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:42 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

[img][/img][img][/img]
This M4A3 Sherman at Ft Irwin is serial number 2938, one of the first 300 Ford built Shermans accepted by the Army. The rear tow lugs appear to have nothing on them, but the number is on each side of the rear, as seen in this picture where I'm pointing out the location. I recieved alot of help from Kurt Laughlin and Charles Lemons on proper ID of this vehicle so I'm pretty sure of the info. The USA number should be 3055898, not the 508867 that is seen. This particular Sherman ran as recently as May 2000, after having its fuel system cleaned, caberators adjusted, a new temp gauge added, and a plastic fuel cell from a Hummer added to replace the rusted metal one. However she hasn't started or moved since I got here in Aug 02, there are no funds for operation.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:29 pm
Post subject: I have the Serial Number

Here is the serial number for the 105 Sherman. It is very visible in the picture. Just in case it can't be seen, the number is #73274.





Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:05 pm
Post subject: Re: I have the Serial Number - Kurt!

- Joe_D
Here is the serial number for the 105 Sherman. It is very visible in the picture. Just in case it can't be seen, the number is #73274.


Okay, now we just need Kurt to chime in!

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:19 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

Kurts the man on Shermans alright. The M74 TRV here at Irwin has clear tow hook markings like those as well, its number is 74159 but was built to late for the war effort. Maybe this one at Hood falls into the same catagory?

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
toadmanstankpictures
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 704

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:27 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

- SFC_Jeff_Button

This M4A3 Sherman at Ft Irwin is serial number 2938, one of the first 300 Ford built Shermans accepted by the Army. The rear tow lugs appear to have nothing on them, but the number is on each side of the rear, as seen in this picture where I'm pointing out the location. I recieved alot of help from Kurt Laughlin and Charles Lemons on proper ID of this vehicle so I'm pretty sure of the info. The USA number should be 3055898, not the 508867 that is seen. This particular Sherman ran as recently as May 2000, after having its fuel system cleaned, caberators adjusted, a new temp gauge added, and a plastic fuel cell from a Hummer added to replace the rusted metal one. However she hasn't started or moved since I got here in Aug 02, there are no funds for operation.


Jeff,
Are there any other Shermans on display at Ft. Irwin? Also, how difficult is it for the general public to get on post and visit the museum? I'm trying to con my wife into letting me make another road trip down to So Cal for more picture taking later this spring and would like to check the museum out if possible.

_________________
Chris "toadman" Hughes
www.toadmanstankpictures.com
www.cafepress.com/toad...ksandstuff
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:48 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

- toadmanstankpictures
Jeff,
Are there any other Shermans on display at Ft. Irwin? Also, how difficult is it for the general public to get on post and visit the museum? I'm trying to con my wife into letting me make another road trip down to So Cal for more picture taking later this spring and would like to check the museum out if possible.


Chris,
If you make it down, be sure to give me a holler. Think you might get to San Diego?

Here's one of my pics of "Betsy" at Ft. Irwin...I have a couple of the interior, too.
D.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
toadmanstankpictures
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 704

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:38 pm
Post subject: Re: M60A3 Reactive Armor and Sherman 105mm

- Doug_Kibbey
- toadmanstankpictures
Jeff,
Are there any other Shermans on display at Ft. Irwin? Also, how difficult is it for the general public to get on post and visit the museum? I'm trying to con my wife into letting me make another road trip down to So Cal for more picture taking later this spring and would like to check the museum out if possible.


Chris,
If you make it down, be sure to give me a holler. Think you might get to San Diego?

Here's one of my pics of "Betsy" at Ft. Irwin...I have a couple of the interior, too.
D.

Doug,
Nice pic. There aren't any M4A3(75) up here. I really need to shoot this vehicle for an upcoming project or two.

If I can make it down south, I'm sure I'll be able to hit San Diego. Everything is very preliminary right now. I still have to let my wife know that I'm even contemplating this trip. Laughing Laughing

_________________
Chris "toadman" Hughes
www.toadmanstankpictures.com
www.cafepress.com/toad...ksandstuff
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum