±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: TylerK93
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6591

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 98
Total: 98
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Photo Gallery
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Photo Gallery
12: Community Forums
13: Home
14: Community Forums
15: Com-Central Videos
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Photo Gallery
22: Community Forums
23: Photo Gallery
24: Photo Gallery
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Home
29: Photo Gallery
30: Community Forums
31: Downloads
32: Photo Gallery
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Photo Gallery
36: Photo Gallery
37: Community Forums
38: Photo Gallery
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Member Screenshots
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Photo Gallery
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: News
67: Photo Gallery
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Downloads
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Photo Gallery
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Photo Gallery
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Photo Gallery
81: Photo Gallery
82: Photo Gallery
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Photo Gallery
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Photo Gallery
94: Community Forums
95: Photo Gallery
96: Photo Gallery
97: Community Forums
98: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
famo
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 31, 2006
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:58 am
Post subject: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

Hi everyone:
I get a AFV Club 35126 M1126 ICV Stryker, this is a great model that was worth the wait!
But after read the reviewing in some websites, and refer to the photos I collect, I found that this model can only build a pre-production or early type, not the vehicle deployed to Iraq, it not include some stuff usually seen in Iraq’s vehicle(But I can’t wait anylonger to build a Iraq type!):
1. Slat Armor (or birdcage): I have not many photos, request for more ,
Sad , I plan to use aluminums or copper fret to do it by myself!
2. Fully perforated shock absorber outer covers : But in some photo I see the solid covers in Iraq type., if 2 kinds of cover can use without strict regulation? or new solid cover put into service to use in the sandy region?
3.%20Hub%20protective%20center%20ring%20&%20Late%20model%20protective%20straps:%20In%20some%20photos%20,%20New%20model%20stryker’s%204%20pair%20of%20wheels%20also%20have%20Hub%20protective%20center%20rings,%20but%20in%20some%20photos,%20Iraq%20type%20has%201%20pair,%202%20pair,%203%20pair,%204%20pair,%20some%20even%20has%20nothing!%20If%20the%20usage%20without%20any%20strict%20regulation%20too?%20%20 4.%20Mounting%20plates:%20in%20some%20reviewing%20sites,%20refer%20to%20Mounting%20Plates,%20I%20know%20nothing%20about%20this,%20are%20the%20plates%20in%20the%20photos?%20if%20this,%20need%20more%20photos%20:-) 5.%20New%20cover%20for%20grille:%20In%20some%20photos,%20there%20is%20a%20cover%20adds%20to%20the%20grille,%20is%20this%20special%20for%20vehicle%20in%20Iraq?%20if%20this,%20need%20more%20photos%20too%20:-) 6.%20New%20side%20box%20armor?

May be too many question Smile tks!


Last edited by famo on Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:33 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 22, 2006
Posts: 4631
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:20 am
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

As we got FAMO sorted out with his images, I deleted all the subsequent posts relating to that issue. We now return you to our regularly scheduled program, which is already in progress. Mr. Green
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
famo
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 31, 2006
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

I've switched my photoalbum from webshot to photobucket, if the image display problem persists, notice ASAP! You know in my computer, everything is OK even the images in webshot photoalbum.
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 22, 2006
Posts: 4631
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

Everything looks Okey-Dokey to me!
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 22, 2006
Posts: 2516
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:25 am
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

It looks fine to me at work (Shh don't tell anybody Rolling Eyes )

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
GaryKato
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 06, 2006
Posts: 39

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:19 am
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

I don't think those are mounting plates. I believe those are extra armor to protect crew who are standing in their hatches. Some of the armor has bulletproof windows in them.

As for the new box armor, possibly. I was joking in my mind that these were nerf bars for beginner drivers, but there might be a grain of truth in that. Maybe these Strykers have the mounts for the bar armor but no bar armor. It could cause real bad damage if a car/truck got too close so they would want something to cover them.

The new grille cover could be to lower the IR signature. It might also be an air conditioner.

The box on top looks like something someone taped together to protect the top.
Back to top
View user's profile
Maple_Leaf_Eh
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 517

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:50 am
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

- famo
Hi everyone:
I get a AFV Club 35126 M1126 ICV Stryker, this is a great model that was worth the wait!

4. Mounting plates: in some reviewing sites, refer to Mounting Plates, I know nothing about this, are the plates in the photos? if this, need more photos Smile





The "mounting plates" look like crew armour for guys in the family hatch doing the air sentry job. A considerable number of Canadian casualties in AFG have been by IEDs. If the blast doesn't cause injuries, the flames will. Giving a guy a vertical deflector to hide more of himself behind, is considered an improvement.

The device on the front bumper won't be discussed. It is what it is. Any further speculation is unnecessary.
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

Hi Famo! Hi Folks!

- famo

2. Fully perforated shock absorber outer covers : But in some photo I see the solid covers in Iraq type.,



I don't know one way or the other, but my guess is that is MUD we are seeing and NOT solid covers. Take a water hose to that vehicle and I would bet that you will find perforated covers under all that dirt.

Famo, you might what to pick up Trumpter's new Stryker super detail set. It has the perforated covers and a lot of other items that might fit the AFV Club vehicle.

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Jason_Bobrowich
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 08, 2006
Posts: 71

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

Eduard released two sets in August for the Trumpeter Stryker...one set includes the perforated covers...it's just a matter time before they release a set or two for the AFV Club Stryker.

Those new armour blocks were discussed on Missing Lynx a while back...I found this on them...

This is part of the Add-On Armor (AOA) array for the Stryker.

It is jointly developed and produced by the Army Research Laboratory (ARL) and United Defence LP back in 2003/2004.

The AOA includes United Defence LP developed NXRA (Non-Explosive Reactive Armor) modules fitted to the Stryker glacis and ARL (Army Research Laboratory) developed explosive reactive armor modules fitted to the vehicle sides.

It weighs 8,000 lbs and gives Level B protection all-round, including the rear hull, against RPGs.

This technology was originally developed for the variety of AOA packages for the M8 AGS.
Back to top
View user's profile
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 1434
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

- GaryKato
As for the new box armor, possibly. I was joking in my mind that these were nerf bars for beginner drivers, but there might be a grain of truth in that. Maybe these Strykers have the mounts for the bar armor but no bar armor. It could cause real bad damage if a car/truck got too close so they would want something to cover them.


The 'box armour' vehicles have been around at least two years - the image I have is dated November 2005. The armour in question is reported to be ERA.

www.jedsite.info/8x8af...a/era.html

BTW Famo - you got a copy of that image without the red scrawl?

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Jason_Bobrowich
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 08, 2006
Posts: 71

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

The modules on the side are reactive (ERA) but the tiles on the glacis plate are non-explosive (NXRA).

Back to top
View user's profile
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 22, 2006
Posts: 2516
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

Are there any safety concerns about driving ERA equipped vehicles on Public Highways?

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Burik
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 04, 2006
Posts: 119

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

The strut guards do not come solid. That is mud in them on that one photo. Both Trumpeter and Eduard now offer it for the Trumpeter kit. I have the Eduard offering and it fits perfectly for the AFV Club kit. Iraq deployed vehicles always had the perforated strut guards.

The blast plates around the air guard hatches are part of the slat kit now. In the early days the soldiers used sand bags, and then started making their own plates out of whatever was at hand, and then GDLS came up with the current blast plate idea.

The Rhino still can be modeled. We don't need to discuss what it's properties are, but it is no secret it has to do with IEDs.

The extended exhaust cover came along with the second or third brigade to deploy. 3/2 did not have these on their first deployment.

The step rings were on all wheels for awhile, and they would come off quite often, so you can see many vehicles with them on some wheels and other wheels did not have them. For the last two years the Stryker has only one step ring on the left front wheel. It can be confusing, as most of the above, since older vehicles are still around and showing older looks; 3/2 is in Iraq now and most of their vehicles still have step rings on all wheels, except new Strykers that came into the brigade as replacement vehicles. Then of course things get overhauled, etc, so there is refitting going on.

I hope I did not confuse the issue.

Bob
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Jason_Bobrowich
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Aug 08, 2006
Posts: 71

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

Are there any safety concerns about driving ERA equipped vehicles on Public Highways?


There shouldn't be unless they are being engaged by heavy weapons or RPGs....ha ha. Damm road rage!!!

What you see mounted may very well be dummy ERA just like the USMC M60A1 RISE were fitted with for training purposes. The real stuff only gets mounted for combat operations.
Back to top
View user's profile
famo
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 31, 2006
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Help! Topic about Stryker in Iraq

More photos of slat armor and blast plate could be batter.Maybe we have to wait half a year for aftermarket sets to make slat and plate till xmas Smile I can't wait so long, DIY is the only way.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum