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Hello,

I don't intend to list the T-34-85 tanks for now, because they are too numerous.

Maybe you should to do list with T-34-85 only from war production?


I don't know how to recognize the war-time production T-34/85s. IS there a way to easily recognize them?

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Yes this is not simple but mayby this web could help www.clubhyper.com/refe...5bg_2.html

BTW List with war T-34/85 preserved in Poland I can prepared
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New section : British WW2 tanks

New PDf file : Comet Cruiser tanks A34

http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Comets.pdf

And I'm sure I missed some !!

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Hello Pierre-Olivier
I had the same as you, plus the ones below

Best regards,
Lesley

HOROTIU, NEW ZEALANDAt a place that sell water tanks
Comet?

BELSEN, NIEDERSACHSEN, GERMANYHohne Camp
This one is now gone
Comet mk.1 GBR

LISBOA, PORTUGAL2nd (PRT) Lancers barracks
Comet? PRT MG5553? re sep04

Londen, GBRRoyal Hospital Road Chelsea, national army museum
Comet mk. GBR pre -

Latrun, ISRAELComet
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Latrun, ISRAELComet


More likely a Charioteer or a Cromwell, I think. No Comet there..

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BELSEN, NIEDERSACHSEN, GERMANYHohne Camp
This one is now gone
Comet mk.1 GBR

Gone ?? where ??

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HOROTIU, NEW ZEALANDAt a place that sell water tanks
Comet?

It's indeed a Valentine tank from 1942,; I found a photo there :
http://www.mandm.co.nz/stock.php?category=4&xid=6e8a84d36470f3602772a6bd24ca4f8d#

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LISBOA, PORTUGAL2nd (PRT) Lancers barracks
Comet? PRT MG5553? re sep04


I'll have a look for this one.

Matilda register published at :

http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Matildas.pdf

There may be some mistakes in this register because I can't make the difference between a Matilda II, III or IV ..

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OK, I'will change the others. For the one in Bergen, I found a photo were you can see the tank in the background. Btw the Sherman is also not on this spot anymore. Were they are gone, I don't know.
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Comments about Matilda

Matilda I #2 - it's also Bovington tank, but not for public. Used only in Tankfest.

IWM - Matilda IV
Saumur - Matilda III
Latrun - Matilda III
Littlefield - Matilda IV
APG - Matilda IIa
Borden - Matilda IIa
Parramata - Matilda IV CS
Private collection - Matilda IV CS
Singleton - Matilda IV
Bovington - Matilda III
Brussels - Matilda III
Kubinka - Matilda IV CS
BTW almost all australian Matilda - Matilda IV Wink


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Cruiser tanks:

Bovington - Cruiser Tank Mk.III*, uparmored version
Bovington - Crusader III
El Alamein - Crusader III
Saumur - Crusader III AA Mk.III
Bovington - Crusader III AA Mk.III turret
Bovington - Cromwell IV
Kubinka - Cromwell VII
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Thanks Taranov, the updates have been done. Where did you find all the info regarding the marks of the various tanks?

As you may have seen, there are new registers :

Cruiser tanks : Mk I (A9), Mk II (A10), Mk III (A13), Covenanter (A13 Mk III), Crusader (A15), Cavalier (A24), Centaur (A27L), Cromwell (A27M), Challenger (A30)

WW2 tanks prototypes : Vickers A1E1 Independent, Vickers D3E1 Wheel Track Tank, L1E3 Amphibious Tank, TOG 2 Heavy Tank, Excelsior Heavy Assault Tank (A33), Valiant Infantry Tank (A38), Tortoise Heavy Assault Tank (A39), Black Prince Infantry Tank (A43)

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New file :

Tankettes, light and medium tanks : Carden-Lloyd Mk IV to Mk VI b tankettes, Vickers-Carden-Lloyd Model 1933, 1934, 1936 and 1937, Light Tank Mk IIA and Mk VI, Light Tank Mk VII Tetrarch, Vickers 6-Ton Tank, Vickers Medium Tank Mk I and Mk II

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New files :

the last British tanks file :

Valentine Infantry tanks, Archer Tank Destroyers

the long-promised Italian tanks file :

Italian World War 2 medium, heavy tanks and self-propelled guns : M13/40, M14/41, M15/42, Carro Pesante M26/40, Semovente M40 da 75/18, M41 da 75/18, Carro comando M42 da 13,2mm, Semovente M42 da 75/18, M42 da 75/34, M41 da 90/53, Semovente da 149/40

What's next ? (not sorted by priority order and not exhaustive..)

-some special Sherman tanks, maybe 2 registers, 1 with DD, BARV and Crab, the other one with Dozers
-Australian/Canadian tanks
-M3 Lee Grant
-M22 Locust
-Japanese tanks
-Russian armored tractors and tankettes
-French armored tractors and tankettes (not only Renault UE but also Lorraine)
-Italian tankettes
-Interwar (from 1919 or 1920 to WW2) tanks from non-neutral countries (for example Stridsvagn m.21-29, Hungarian tanks etc..)
-Intewar/WW2 tanks from neutral countries

-German Half-Tracks
-Some pre-1945 armoured cars...

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P-O, the Vickers-Carden-Lloyd Model 1937 at the top of page 6 is at Kubinka, not Bovington.

The APG Mk VI is supposedly a Mk VIB.

The APG Medium Mk II is supposedly a Mk IIA.

You can check the USA AFV register for background on the APG examples...

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Thanks for the corrections.

Well, it seems that I''m using to much the CTRL+V command Rolling Eyes

One more new file published yesterday :

Sherman-based "Funnies" : Sherman M4A4 Crab, Sherman Duplex Drive, Sherman BARV

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P-O,
An addition for your British Light & Medium Tanks file - discovered while researching the Bovington website for my new UK AFV Register:

www.tankmuseum.co.uk/c..._0103.html

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Thanks Neil, I hope that I will be able to help you for the UK register. A big challenge as there are several private owners there !!

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