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Help/Pics Needed - MVTF, Portola Valley, CA
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Post subject: Help/Pics Needed - MVTF, Portola Valley, CA

Chris, others, I could still use pics, and any other info for the following:

BMP-1 SOV ind
Borgward IV DEU std Only example in the US
Centurion ARV GBR ind (not the gun tanks)
Churchill AVRE GBR ind Only example in the US?
Close Combat Vehicle – Light USA ind Only prototype built
Fox GBR ind 90mm gun?
Fox prototype GBR ind
FV432 GBR ind
LVT(A)5 USA ind 1 of 2 surviving LVT(A)5s in the US
M3A1 Stuart USA ind SN 7073 (one of these is on the MVTF website, but I'm not sure which one)
M3A1 Stuart USA ind SN 7153 (one of these is on the MVTF website, but I'm not sure which one)
M5 Stuart USA ind SN 610
M5A1 Stuart USA ind SN 2440
M5A1 Stuart USA/PRT ind SN 5085, RN 3048197
M7B2 Priest USA ind
M8 Greyhound USA ind
M8 HMC USA ind SN 1270; One of five in the US
M24 Chaffee USA ind Former French army
M40 USA ind
M41 Walker Bulldog USA ind
M41A1 Walker Bulldog USA ind
M44 USA ind
M44 USA std
M47 Patton USA ind
M47E1 Patton USA ind
M48 Patton USA ind (not the M48A4 Patton Mag’ach 3)
M48A5 AVLB USA ind
M52 USA ind 1 of 4 confirmed survivors
M60A0 USA std SN 15 (not SN 19)
M74 USA ind
M110A2 USA ind
M548A1 USA ind
MTTB FMC Test Bed USA ind
T17E1 Staghound USA ind One of five Staghounds in the US (1 of 2 T17E1s in the collection, already have the other one: www.toadmanstankpictur...hound.htm)
T165E2 Ontos USA ind
T-55 SOV ind (not the T-54A or T-55AM2)

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:49 pm
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I'm going there in January, I'll get you some pics then if you don't get them now.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:33 am
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Neil,
Here are are few of them:
www.toadmanstankpictur..._ontos.jpg (not sure which one it is, maybe Don can help)
www.toadmanstankpictur...f_stag.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...vtf_m5.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...tf_m52.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...f_m3a1.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur..._m8hmc.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...rgward.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...60sn15.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...tf_m47.jpg

I'll post more as I dig out the photos, possibly tomorrow.

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Here's a few more I took yesterday.

www.toadmanstankpictur...f_m7b2.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur..._110a2.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...tf_t48.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...tf_m74.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...f_bmp1.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...l_avre.jpg

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:16 pm
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Chris

Neat photos.

www.toadmanstankpictur..._ontos.jpg

This is the T165E2 Prototype Ontos. It looks as though it is still behind the disassembled T165E1 (Ontos), as it was several years ago.

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Chris,
FYI, here's my complete(?) MVTF list:

2S1 SOV ind
2S7 SOV/CSK ind Only 2S7 in the US?
AAAV water-based test vehicle USA std
Abbot GBR ind
AC-1 Sentinel AUS std
AMX-13 FRA ind
Australian Anti-Tank Carrier AUS ind
BeobPz DEU std Fmr KJgPz 4-5 JagdPanzer Kanone
BMP-1 SOV ind
Borgward IV DEU std Only example in the US
BTR-70 SOV ind Only example in the US?
BTR-152 SOV ind One of three in the US
Centurion Mk 3/5 GBR/CAN ind
Centurion Mk 13 GBR ind
Centurion ARV GBR ind (pic needed)
Chieftain Mk 6 dozer GBR ind VRN 02EB61 1
Chieftain Mk 5 ARV GBR ind VRN 07FF05 2
Churchill Mk VII Crocodile GBR ind 1 of 4 Churchill Crocodiles in the US
Churchill AVRE GBR ind Only example in the US?
Churchill Toad GBR ind RN 35ZR10; Recently acq. from the UK
Close Combat Vehicle – Light USA ind Only prototype built (pic needed)
Comet GBR ind One of two Comets in the US
Conqueror Mk 1 GBR ind One of two in the United States
Cromwell GBR ind Only Cromwell in the United States
Crusader Mk II GBR ind 1 of 7 Crusaders (5 wrecks) in the US
Daimler Mk II GBR ind Only Daimler armored car in the US
Dingo GBR ind One of five Dingos in the US?
EBR-75 FRA ind
Eland 90 ZAF ind Only example in the US
Ferret Mk 2 GBR ind
Fox GBR ind 90mm gun? (pic needed)
Fox prototype GBR ind (pic needed)
FV432 GBR ind (pic needed)
FV438 Swingfire GBR ind
G-13 Hetzer DEU/CSK/CHE ind One of six G-13 Hetzers in the US?
Humber Mk IV GBR ind One of three Humbers in the US
IKV 73 SWE ind Only example in the US
JS-3M SOV ind One of three JS-3s in the US
JS-3 SS-1B Scud A Launcher SOV ind One of three JS-3s in the US
Leopard 1A1A2 DEU ind One of four Leopard 1s in the US
Leopard 1A4 DEU ind RN Y636467; 1 of 4 Leo 1s in the US
LVT(A)5 USA ind 1 of 2 surviving LVT(A)5s in the US (pic needed)
M2A1 Half-Track USA ind
M3 Lee USA ind SN 4540 3
M3A5 Grant Mk IX USA/GBR ind
M3A1 Stuart USA ind SN 7073 (pic needed)
M3A1 Stuart USA ind SN 7153 4 (pic needed)
M3A3 Stuart USA ind
M3 Half-Track GMC USA std Under restoration; 1 of 4 survivors
M3A1 Scout Car USA ind
M4A1(75) Sherman Grizzly USA/CAN ind “Black Magic”
M4A1E8 “M1 Super Sherman” USA/ISR ind Only example in the US
M4A3(76) Sherman USA std Converted from M4A3(75) 5
M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo USA ind SN 50331, RN 3082929; 1 of 5 surv.6
M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight USA ind
M4 Sherman Trailblazer ARV USA/ISR ind Only example in the US
M5 Stuart USA ind SN 610 7
M5A1 Stuart USA ind SN 2440 (pic needed)
M5A1 Stuart USA/PRT ind SN 5085, RN 3048197 (pic needed)
M5 High Speed Tractor USA ind Former agricultural tractor; SN 2440 9
M5 Half-Track USA/ISR ind
M5A1 High Speed Tractor USA ind
M7B2 Priest USA ind
M8 Greyhound USA ind (pic needed)
M8 HMC USA ind SN 1270; One of five in the US
M10 Achilles IIC USA/GBR ind One of only two M10 Achilles in the US
M18 Hellcat USA/YUG ind Recovered from Bosnia-Herzegovina?
M20 USA ind
M22 Locust USA ind Early production version
M24 Chaffee USA ind Former French army (pic needed)
M26A1 Pershing USA ind
M26 Dragon Wagon USA ind
M29C Weasel USA ind
M32B3 USA/ISR std
M36B2 Jackson USA ind
M37 USA ind
M39 USA ind One of six survivors?
M40 USA ind (pic needed)
M41 Walker Bulldog USA ind (pic needed)
M41A1 Walker Bulldog USA ind (pic needed)
M44 USA ind (pic needed)
M44 USA std (pic needed)
M47 Patton USA ind
M47E1 Patton USA ind (pic needed)
M48A4 Patton Mag’ach 3 USA/JRD/ISR ind Only example in the US
M48A5 AVLB USA ind (pic needed)
M50 Mk 2 Super Sherman USA/ISR ind SN 016, RN 816016; 1 of 5 M50s in US
M51 Isherman USA/ISR ind 1 of 2 M51 Ishermans in the US
M52 USA ind 1 of 4 confirmed survivors
M53/59 Praga CSK ind
M55 USA ind
M56 Scorpion USA ind
M59 USA ind
M60A0 USA std SN 15 10
M60A0 USA ind SN 19, RN 9B3119 11
M60A1 USA ind SN 9360, RN JJ010A 12
M60A2 USA ind SN 4825, RN JK00CL 13
M74 USA/DEU ind
M75 USA ind
M88 USA ind “Haulin Ass”
M103A2 USA ind “Junk Yard Dog”
M110A2 USA ind
M113 FSV USA/AUS ind Only example in the US
M114 USA ind
M548A1 USA ind (pic needed)
M551 Sheridan USA ind “Deathstalker”
M578 USA ind
M901A1 ITV USA ind
M1917 USA ind 14
Mk VIA GBR ind One of two Mk VI tanks in the US
Mk 61 Obusier FRA ind Only example in the US
Matilda Mk IV GBR ind ”Dunkerque;” 1 of 2 Matildas in the US
Marder 1A3 DEU ind
Marmon-Herrington CTMS-1TB1 USA ind
Marmon-Herrington CTMS-1TB1 USA wre
MTTB FMC Test Bed USA ind (pic needed)
OT-64 CSK ind
OT-810 CSK ind
Panhard M3 FRA ind One of two Panhard M3s in the US
PSZH-IV HUN ind One of three PSZH-IVs in the US
PzKpfw I Ausf A DEU ind Fmrly part of Canadian War Museum 15
PzKpfw IV Ausf H DEU/SYR ind Captured by Israel from Syria 1967 16
PzKpfw V Panther A DEU ind Recovered from Poland in 1991 17
Pz 61 CHE ind SN 72639; One of two in the US
PT-76B SOV ind
Saladin GBR ind VRN 07BB39
Samson ARV GBR ind VRN 00GM81; Gulf War 1991 vet
Saracen GBR ind
Saracen Mk 2 ACV GBR ind VRN 82BA07
Scorpion GBR ind VRN 03FD59
Sd.Kfz. 7 DEU ind
Sd.Kfz. 10 DEU ind
Sd.Kfz. 222 DEU ind Only example in the US
Sd.Kfz. 251/1 Ausf D DEU ind
Sexton Mk II CAN ind
Spz 11-2 Hotchkiss Kurz FRA/DEU ind
Striker GBR ind
StuG III Ausf G DEU ind Hull no. 92475; Obtained fr Finland 18
STRV M42 SWE ind Only example in the US
SU-100 SOV ind One of three in the US
T17E1 Staghound USA std One of five Staghounds in the US
T17E1 Staghound USA ind One of five Staghounds in the US
T17E2 Staghound USA ind One of five Staghounds in the US
T48 Patton USA ind
T165E1 Ontos USA ind Original GM 302ci engine 19
T165E2 Ontos USA ind 20
T-34/76 Model 1943 SOV ind One of three T-34/76s in the US
T-34/85 SOV ind
T-54A SOV ind
T-55 SOV ind (pic needed)
T-55AM2 SOV/CSK ind
T-62A SOV ind SN 0758; 1 of 7 in US
T-72G SOV/DDR ind
Tracked Rapier GBR ind VRN 49KB19
Universal Carrier GBR ind
Valentine Mk V GBR ind One of two Valentines in the U.S.
XM1 GM prototype USA wre Only one built
XM734 Modified M113A1 USA ind 1 of at least 3 surviving XM734s
ZSU-23-4 SOV/DDR ind

Let me know if I'm missing anything or if there's something incorrect - thanks!

Neil
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Neil,
Add the following for now:
Dragoon APC ind
CCVL Hull? outside
M4A2(76)HVSS ind
M4A3(105)HVSS ind
M32B3(HVSS) ind
M47 wreck
M578 wreck
M551 wreck
M53 155mm SP Gun outside
OT-810 ind
PSZH-IV HUN (cut away display) ind
SdKfz 8 DEU ind
There are a few other prototypes to add as well. I'll find my pics and add them.

Remove or change the following:
Fox GBR ind 90mm gun: It's just a plain 30mm Fox pic to follow

M5A1 Stuart USA ind SN 2440 (pic needed)
M5 High Speed Tractor USA ind Former agricultural tractor; SN 2440 9
The M5 HST listed above is actually the M5A1 2440. It's missing the upper hull and turret as it was a former ag. tractor.

STRV M42 SWE ind Only example in the US: it's actually the IKV73 www.toadmanstankpictur...m/strv.htm

I'll post additional photo links in a few minutes.

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More MVTF images:
www.toadmanstankpictur...l_hull.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...ragoon.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...f_fox1.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...f_fox2.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur..._fv432.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur..._lvt5a.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...yhound.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...haffee.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...ulldog.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...ulldog.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...stored.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...m548a1.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...itzer1.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...itzer2.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...f_mttb.jpg
www.toadmanstankpictur...f_t55a.jpg

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We can expect the regular updates of the already existing vehicles catalogues on www.toadmanstankpictures.com/ with new photos from last weekend tour in this week?

Thank you for making this photos.

Rafa?
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Chris,
Many thanks for these!

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Are these 2 different Fox vehicles, or the same one? Is there a normal Fox, and a Fox prototype?

Thanks again!

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FYI,
This is an LVT(A)5 "modified" (rather than a standard WWII LVT(A)5), like the one now at Camp Pendleton
www.primeportal.net/ap...lio/lvta5/

The bow is very different from the standard straight now WWII LVT(A)5.

According to Hunnicutt, all LVT(A)5s were brought up to this standard post-war. There may also be a standard LVT(A)5 at Pendleton...

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They are two different Fox vehicles. I don't know which one is the prototype.

It's not really a good time for me to ask questions about what vehicle is what as the MVTF is kinda busy right now. I'll be updating with new pics as time permits. I'll be up there alot during the next few weeks but I'm also trying to finish one of my books during the next 10 days so I maybe even slower at posting new pics than normal.

However, I have posted some new pics from this weekend on my new blog: toadmanstankpictures.blogspot.com/ There's some additional info posted there as well.

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Thanks Chris.

FWIW, this one looks a bit different to me - including the slope of the front hull & hatch. There's also no bumper bar. Perhaps its the prototype?



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Also,
Can anyone illuminate me to what an MTTB was/is?



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Thanks Chris.

FWIW, this one looks a bit different to me - including the slope of the front hull & hatch. There's also no bumper bar. Perhaps its the prototype?

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