±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 201
Total: 201
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Downloads
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Home
06: Community Forums
07: Home
08: Photo Gallery
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: News
15: Photo Gallery
16: Photo Gallery
17: Member Screenshots
18: Home
19: Photo Gallery
20: Home
21: Community Forums
22: Photo Gallery
23: News Archive
24: Downloads
25: Photo Gallery
26: Home
27: Photo Gallery
28: Community Forums
29: Home
30: News
31: Community Forums
32: Photo Gallery
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Home
38: Home
39: Member Screenshots
40: Member Screenshots
41: Member Screenshots
42: Home
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: News
49: Photo Gallery
50: Photo Gallery
51: News
52: Photo Gallery
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: CPGlang
57: CPGlang
58: Photo Gallery
59: Photo Gallery
60: Home
61: Home
62: Photo Gallery
63: Home
64: Community Forums
65: CPGlang
66: Home
67: CPGlang
68: Community Forums
69: Photo Gallery
70: Photo Gallery
71: Downloads
72: Photo Gallery
73: Photo Gallery
74: Community Forums
75: Home
76: Downloads
77: Home
78: News
79: Home
80: Community Forums
81: Downloads
82: Community Forums
83: Photo Gallery
84: Downloads
85: Photo Gallery
86: News Archive
87: News Archive
88: Community Forums
89: Photo Gallery
90: Photo Gallery
91: Home
92: Member Screenshots
93: Community Forums
94: News
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Member Screenshots
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Photo Gallery
102: Home
103: Community Forums
104: Photo Gallery
105: Photo Gallery
106: Photo Gallery
107: Photo Gallery
108: Community Forums
109: Member Screenshots
110: Member Screenshots
111: Photo Gallery
112: Member Screenshots
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Photo Gallery
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Member Screenshots
120: Home
121: Downloads
122: Photo Gallery
123: Photo Gallery
124: Member Screenshots
125: Home
126: Community Forums
127: News
128: Home
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Photo Gallery
132: Photo Gallery
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Photo Gallery
137: Community Forums
138: Home
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Downloads
144: Community Forums
145: Photo Gallery
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: News Archive
150: Community Forums
151: Downloads
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Home
155: CPGlang
156: Photo Gallery
157: Community Forums
158: Photo Gallery
159: Downloads
160: Home
161: Photo Gallery
162: News
163: Photo Gallery
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Photo Gallery
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: News
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: CPGlang
173: Photo Gallery
174: Community Forums
175: Photo Gallery
176: Community Forums
177: Photo Gallery
178: News Archive
179: Community Forums
180: Member Screenshots
181: Photo Gallery
182: Community Forums
183: Photo Gallery
184: Community Forums
185: Photo Gallery
186: Downloads
187: Photo Gallery
188: Member Screenshots
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: News
192: Photo Gallery
193: Photo Gallery
194: Downloads
195: Community Forums
196: Home
197: Community Forums
198: Photo Gallery
199: News
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Sinking Fast
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:22 pm
Post subject: Sinking Fast

[img][/img][img][/img]
This is what happens when 60+ tons slides off the raod into a drainage ditch of "god only knows" what. I don't know the lapse in time between pictures but I imagine this was no fun to pull out and even less fun to clean out.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:51 am
Post subject: Re: Sinking Fast

Hi all,

Pretty sure that those aren't in the same sequence, or of the same vehicle. This sort of thing happened too often while I was in Iraq. We had it happen to M1s, Brads, and even HMMWVs. Most were recoverable, although at least one soldier died when he was trapped in the driver's compartment of a slowly sinking M1.

The problem is that the canals are not lined, and the water table is often not very deep. The roads (just trails, really) are built right alongside the canal. You can drive across the road a hundred times without problems. Then some small thing will happen: a tiny change in the water level in the canal, the humidity changes, etc.. Under the road will become saturated with water, and the bearing capacity drops to near zero. The road surface looks exactly the same, and there is usually no indication that the road has changed. The next heavy vehicle along will hit the slop, and in they go. Then, sitting in the saturated muck, they will continue to sink and efforts to self-extract will just churn up the mud more and make it worse.

The solution is to back off to (hopefully) solid ground and yank it out with an M88...or two. God bless the recovery crews!

C
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:50 am
Post subject: Re: Sinking Fast

I hear ya, I found those pics at StrangeMilitary.com, so I dont know who or where this was. I've spent two tours is Korea and the roads are very narrow and things like this happen more often than you would like. And the smell!, esspecially in August is putrid.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:43 am
Post subject: Re: Sinking Fast

Hi Folks!

It's possible both photos are of the same vehicle. Sometime not to long after that happien, a group of about five or six photos were on the internet showing the first vehicle from a number of different positions as it slowly sank into the water.

If I remember right, the second photo was taken sometime later, after the crew removed the machine guns.

The primary reason that vehicle went into the drink was because it was the second or third tank in the colume and the driver was tracking the vehicles in front of him. Something a good track driver does to reduce the chances of hitting a land mine. The problem with doing that is be very careful when doing in soft ground. The lead vehicles break down the soil and the follow on vehicles break through.

Old lessons learned the hard way, a long time ago.
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum