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C_Sherman · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 590

- Dennis_Smith

Off topic, what do you guys think these things are?
binged.it/LoFAMI

Not sure what you mean by "these things", but:

The lattice-looking things beside the building are stacks of Bailey Bridge panels. I'm sure of that. There should be some stringers and decking hiding around nearby, possibly inside the buildings.

If you mean the white things at upper left, I'm not sure at all.

The circular thing at the upper right looks a lot like the base for some kind of launcher, or perhaps a radar dish or antenna.

You didn't ask, but the wingy-thing (an AH1 Cobra, as a guess) looks like part of some sort of demonstration or test area. All the structures are made of the same barrels or containers, used to make up a whole bunch of different bunkers, shelters, and a revetment for the bird.

C

Essayons · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Dec 13, 2012 Posts: 1

I stumbled upon this site somehow, but at any rate, i work at the facility that has that museum. More specifically, those are my branches vehicles, we tested them and put them there. Pretty cool to see people interested in something i see everyday. I'll be glad to answer any further questions about those vehicles or the facility in general.

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

Some more on the GMC-MAN truck: According to this, it was made in 1989 in preparation for the PLS competition and it's basically the MAN SX90 with a 500hp Detroit Diesel engine mated to an Allison automatic transmission.
And there was also an even earlier cooperative effort between the two companies that yielded the M1001, M1002, M1013 and M1014.

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

Hi Neil.
Your unknown is the experimental COE version of the AMG Heavy Hummer, known as the Hummer Truck. This one appears to be in the low bed configuration. (source: Squadron/Signal Hummer/Humvee in action)
By the way, the PLS candidate above it, even with the GMC logo on the front, is basically a MAN.

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:27 am Post subject: Re: Vicksburg MS, AFV collection

"Missing" vehicles previously identified in the 1991 Wheels & Tracks article:

KID amphibious tractor
M4 High Speed Tractor
M5A4 High Speed Tractor
M37 truck
M114
M274 Mule
Nodwell RN10
Polecat personnel carrier
XM410 truck
XM808 Twister
V3 Combat Test Vehicle

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:16 am Post subject: Re: Vicksburg MS, AFV collection

Amphibious softskins - seems to me these would be a good fit at the Army Transportation Museum.

XM759 Marginal Terrain Vehicle - the Camp Pendleton Marine Corps Mechanized Museum has one, another one is in storage at Quantico

Lockheed Terra Star

Marsh Screw

Mexa-Clark Truck

Riverine Utility Craft (assembled)

Riverine Utility Craft (disassembled)

"Candidate" PLS Truck

Unknown - Help?

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:10 am Post subject: Re: Vicksburg MS, AFV collection

Here are some current photos of the collection sent to me by the PAO.

According to the PAO most vehicles are in bad shape. Since 9-11 they don't do tours and the vehicles are no longer maintained. Many vehicles were surpluses and donated to museums.

First the "true" AFVs:

M48A1 Patton

M60A0

M113 "Hotrod" - "two Chrysler 440s yoked together that got 70+ mph, unofficial land speed record for tracked vehicle until M1 with no governors took the title"

M56 Scorpion

M116 Husky

XM800W ARSV chassis

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Vicksburg MS, AFV collection

- Dennis_Smith

Bunch of AFVs in this area:
binged.it/LoDmNb

Dennis,
Thanks - that is the display area from the article. It looks like the XM800W is still there for example.

Neil

Pzkpfw-e · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jul 21, 2010 Posts: 1202

They're not pressure vessels, definately an easily retractable cover for something.

bsmart · Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Vicksburg MS, AFV collection

I don't think so. They look like they might be pressure vessels for building up large volumes of compressed air to allow it to be released for experimental purposes.

Remember the Corps of Engineers is responsible for flood control and navigation on the Mississippi and other inland waterways. That is a huge organization and with Vicksburg being along the Mississippi I think it is probably the primary purpose for most development at that site

L.Delsing · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 10, 2006 Posts: 960

About the last link, aren't these Hawk missile domes to protect them against the weather?

nl.123rf.com/photo_100...rland.html

regards
Lesley

Dennis_Smith · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Mar 17, 2006 Posts: 192

Bunch of AFVs in this area:
binged.it/LoDmNb

This looks like a gate guard:
binged.it/LoEalk

Wingy thingy:
binged.it/LoEL6z

Off topic, what do you guys think these things are?
binged.it/LoFAMI

And these?
binged.it/KDfws0

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Vicksburg MS, AFV collection

Alf, thanks fot the heads up. Would you mind scanning that article and sending it to me? The PAO is interested to see it.

Thanks!

Alf_Adams · Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Vicksburg MS, AFV collection

Thanks for doing the digital legwork on this Neil. I should have thought of the PAO angle myself. I await with interest to see what is left there. Judging from the pictures in W&T, they used to have a small but nice collection which included some rare vehicles.

Neil_Baumgardner · Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Vicksburg MS, AFV collection

I've made contact with the WES PAO. They still have a few vehicles, but most were given to museums or used as targets. He is going to catalog what they still have (and possibly take pictures) and get back to me.

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