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JJM67 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jun 03, 2007 Posts: 8

Happiness over the restoration move is tempered by the loss all the photos from my visit last month to APG and the now lost oportunity to take replacements. While I was photographing the Elefant, I was happy to discover the Elefant's ventilator was rusted lose and, like Bob, I could photograph the interior. From Bob's photos you can see the gun breech and fighting compartment floor (note the interior mounting bracket for the fighting compartment roof). I lost my photo of the inside of the large rear circular hatch, so if one turns up here that would be appreciated! Another area not photographed, even in Schiffer's "Heavy Jagdpanzer", would be the electric drive components; so when the refurbishing starts don't forget to grab the digital camera!

For those looking for good photo coverage of the Aberdeen and Kubinka examples, the Japanese publisher, "Model Art" as recently produced an excellent little book with a short history and extensive photo coverage demonstrating the modifications seperating the difference between the Ferdinand and the Elefant.

Finally, the Saurer RK-7 (SdKfz 254) wheeled/tracked combination was the subject of a "Nuts & Bolts" booklet published back in 1996. In addition to some wartime photos, there are photos of it at APG and a 25 page section of detail photos taken from its storage room in Germany (interior shots are also provided).

Neil_Baumgardner

Hopefully they are still laying around somewhere...

Neil

piney

Here is almost the same shot of the area cut by Anniston taken back in 1980 or 81. note that the bolt on supplemental armor plates on the gun barrel have also disappeared

Jeff Lewis

Dirk

AFV Interiors (RIP) had some great interior photos of the APG Elefant.

piney

and we've learned what a loan to a german museum means Rolling Eyes

Jeff Lewis

Neil_Baumgardner

Ah... It may be at WTS Museum or somewhere in Germany. My notes on the 254 say it was loaned to the German BWB in 1981...

Neil

Garry_Redmon

That is the Beobachtungspanzer RK 7 otherwise known as the SdKfz 254. It was an Austrian-made vehicle designed by Saurer that was used as an OP vehicle with armored artillery units.

Neil_Baumgardner

- piney

These are just plain gone

Now at Saumur - given back to France in 1987.

Sigh... The thin-skins... I've simply been told they are all "gone" now...

The trucks in the background may be at the Transportation or Quartermaster Museums, but I havent been able to confirm that...

Sd.Kfz. 234/1 sPz Sp Wg 2cm Gun Armored Car I believe... You gotta think its somewhere... They scrapped stuff in the 50s... But I have a hard time believing they would have in the 80s... Possibly overseas...

Hmm... Whats this one???

As for the SdKfz 251 SPW next to it, its probably the one the March 1995 issue of the Journal of Military Ordnance reported as "shipped out."

Neil

Roy_A_Lingle

Hi Folks!

- piney

Anniston at work!

Jeff Lewis

My guess would be that the folks at Anniston couldn't get those plates to come off and planned to replace them with copies when they put the top back on. To bad they didn't get around to finishing what they started.

My SWAG on Anniston's work.
Sgt, Scouts out!

piney

Anniston at work!

Jeff Lewis

bsmart

- the_shadock

Why was the Elefant moved to the railhead?

P-O

Back at some time in the past the Elephant was sent to Anniston to be worked on. At Anniston the removed the casemate (at least partially with a cutting torch Evil or Very Mad

) It sat at Anniston uncompleted and eventually was sent back to Aberdeen. There it was unloaded from the railcar and sat for at least 7 years until last month

piney

I'll let Bob address thst but here is a further trip down memory lane, I apologize in advance for the picture quality, but I just shot pictures of the slides since I haven't had a chance to get them transferred yet
August 1979

March 1980 during the boy scout repaint era

some other goodies, a really colorful 1978 scheme

This is behind the fence now but here's the inscription

These are just plain gone

drooling yet Bob Wink

Jeff Lewis

the_shadock

Why was the Elefant moved to the railhead?

P-O

Sundrtonge · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 17, 2006 Posts: 35

Here is the other shot of the Elephant. Again I am sorry if the pics dont post to forum rules, still learning.

-Dave

Sundrtonge · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Sep 17, 2006 Posts: 35

Its hard to tell on the slides, I think it says June 84 ( I originally thought they were from teh 70's).

If this works I will post the King picture (look in the background for the Tiger I as well).

-Dave

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