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Full Militärmuseum
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:09 pm
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Very nice camo !!!

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I think that it is quite ugly lol, but at least it is original. Not sure that it would work very well on the battlefield, it would probably make the enemy laugh a bit.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:06 am
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This is AMX-13 used to be in Burgdorf, there are now two AMX-13 in Full:

AMX-13 M-78357 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:23 am
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Very nice camo !!!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:31 am
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This tank was seen at Steelparade 2005 in Thun. I was afraid it was scrapped, but now it's in Full.

Pz 68 Leopardine by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:58 pm
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Another tank that is usually not on display. It belongs to the Vereain Centurion association, who collaborates with the Museum:


Centurion M-78520 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:56 pm
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This tanl is usually held in storage:


Pz 68/88 M-78073 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:56 pm
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Bridgelayer Pz 68 in action:


Bpz 68 M-77884 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:00 am
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Definitely not a 5-ton, more of a 2-ton


I would go for a 2.5t. I took another pic in "better" angle
www.flickr.com/photos/...336047996/

The M+ number is most likely wrong. It belonged most likely to a tractor.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:48 am
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This one is a new acquisition. It's missing from the PDF:


ZSU-23-4 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:14 am
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Definitely not a 5-ton, more of a 2-ton

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:34 pm
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Is it a 2.5-ton, or a 5-ton truck? The a 2.5-ton Saurer 1CR1D is visually very similar to the 5-ton 4CT1D. Bart Vanderveen describes the former (in The Observer's Army Vehicles to 1940 Directory) as basically a civilian model modified with a radiator brush guard, towing attachments, etc, to meet the military's specs and powered by a 65 bhp 4-cyl gasoline engine. The 5-ton truck had a 6-cyl diesel producing 100 bhp.
If you had a profile pic, it would be easier to tell, based on the length of the cargo bed. from this angle, it looks like it has the shorter bed of the 2.5-tonner.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:08 am
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Should be a Saurer 4CT1D 4x2 Cargo Truck
Here is one more ,also swiss number
www.google.nl/imgres?q...0,s:0,i:80

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:24 am
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This is the last id missing. It's a Saurer truck, from the look it seems a model from the thirties. But I am unable to find the exact id:


Saurer truck by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:22 am
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Pretty cool early model Opel Blitz:


Opel Blitz Ambulance by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:26 am
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You are welcome!
Edit: The SUMB has remarkably made appearances in mainstream movies, like Bad Boys II...
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_...-1954.html
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_...-SUMB.html
pics.imcdb.org/0is343/...y.2420.jpg

And I remembered an incident I was called to during my Army days when an M911 T-boned an old Opel Ascona, fortunately without injuries to anyone.

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