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Cobra King (reposted updates)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:23 pm
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Kurt

That ID plate is there, but I was looking for debris, at the time, and didn't realize it as a data plate.

As for the process, its been limited mainly by Time/personnel availability/resource management.

CK is not the only project ongoing, so there is only a small volunteer team dedicated to it for now.

We are mindful to limiting any 'non-reversable' disassembly efforts, so every step is being carefully planned. The turret will be pulled soon (hopefully) but the means of pulling it is still in question.

The differential housing was abit different decision. It was decided to not pull it for reasons of time management & mobility. It sounds weird but there are a number of factors involved which I can't really discuss (mainly cause its none of my business Rolling Eyes ).

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:02 pm
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Dave has it - BREATHER, oil, differential housing, assembly, B200254.

Immediately to the left of that, on the back plate of the differential (called the carrier) should be the differential housing ID plate.

Question: it seems most restorations begin with removing the turret and the differential housing so as to maximize the access to the interior. Why did you guys choose to leave it all together?

KL
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:00 pm
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Dave

Thanks for the info.

As for 'the plan', it is initially an exterior cosmetic restoration, with the focus of returning it to Dec 44 configuration.

As for the interior, with all the interior artifact discovery and the fact it is the sole surviving Jumbo that was upgunned to 76mm in Feb/Mar 45, it will not be returned to the 75mm interior configuraton.

Our focus currently is to stabalize or preserve the interior, so that no further corrosion will degrade the unique interior.

With that said, we are still working in the historical discovery effort which will dictate additional disassembly of the track & suspension as well as the removal of the turret.

My own personal goal is to get Cobra King to the Dec 44 configuration and hopefully being placed on public exhibit here at the Patton Museum, where 'she' should be exhibited. Unfortunately with the BRAC revisionism, 'she' won't be here for very long, before heading south to Ft Benning. Crying or Very sad

In the meantime, I am trying to get as much done as possible, hopefully for the public to be able to see first hand, as it should be.

Just my humble opinion
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:22 pm
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I think its a vent for the final drive. If I remember correctly, you can remove the top cap to clean the inner filter. The filter element looks like coarse copper wool like you would use to scrub dishes. How far are you guys planning to strip this down? DAVE
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:44 pm
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Today, I took the time to finish cleaning out both the BOG & Drivers positions. At least the floor area, and beneath the transmission, between both positions.

I%20happen%20to%20notice%20a%20part%20extending%20off%20of%20the%20rear%20of%20the%20transmission%20housing.%20%20At%20first%20I%20thought%20it%20was%20just%20sitting%20wedged%20behind%20the%20ammo%20storage%20bin,%20but%20it%20seems%20to%20be%20some%20sort%20of%20filter.%20%20Anyone%20have%20an%20idea%20what%20this%20is? It%20is%20the%20small%20cyclinder,%20mounted%20behind%20the%20BOG%20MG%20ammo%20box,%20in%20the%20bottom%20photo.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:29 pm
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About the turning up-side down thing


Is that not what they did during production of the hull in some factory's ??

If I remember correctly they bolted something like an rocking chair device to the lower hull so the could "rock" the hull side way's

So the top of the hull could be turned completly to the side for welding of the top hull

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:14 pm
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He's panning for gold. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:58 pm
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Kurt

I'm shocked you would suggest such a means of historic investigation & artifact discovery/recovery !? Shocked

Although that would be pretty cool.... Perhaps we should call it the 'Shake, Rattle, & Roll' process?? Cool

Besides, I have no social life, so it keeps me busy. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:28 am
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Seems like a lot of trouble . . . Can't you just get a crane, turn CK upside down, and shake all the crap out?

Laughing

KL
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:31 pm
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I was able to spend a few hours digging around in Cobra King today.

More artifact laden debris was extracted from the rear of the hull, in the ammo rack area. I was able to dig out the area around the fabricated ammo rack support.

Here%20are%20a%20few%20shots%20showing%20the%20cramped%20conditions%20encountered%20to%20remove%20the%20debris%20in%20this%20area.%20(Starring%20'Your%20Truely')

Note: Both M4A3E2s are currently back indoors.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:32 pm
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A few interesting notes from some time spent in the Motor Pool today.

CK has been pulled outside and we were able to traverse the turret. It is currently oriented over the left side.

In%20the%20brief%20time%20I%20had%20to%20observe%20the%20sub-floor%20area%20now%20exposed%20with%20the%20rotation%20of%20the%20turret%20/%20basket,%20I%20noticed%20a%20new%20aspect%20to%20the%20field%20fabrication%20done%20with%20the%2076mm%20ammo%20rack%20installation%20in%20Feb%201945. The%20right%20side%20rear%20sub-floor%20ammo%20rack%20is%20secured%20to%20the%20rear%20fire%20wall%20with%20a%20'Duckbill'%20end%20connector.%20%20It%20is%20crudely%20welded%20into%20place%20to%20prevent%20the%20rack%20from%20sliding%20around.%20

Note: Both M4A3E2's were pulled out of the Maint Bay, due to a need for the bays to be vacant for a day or two. They will be moved back in tomorrow or Friday. It provided for a unique photo op, which I took advantage of.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:00 pm
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Kurt

Thats an excellent point!! Thanks for the idea.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:03 pm
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Don:

You guys might want to contact Yale about that key. Given the historical nature they might be able/willing to tell you the type of lock it goes to, when it was made, if any were provided as Gov't material, etc.

KL
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:57 pm
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Chris

No, CK had its BOG escape hatch.



I had to remove it on 10 Sept, to be able to begin removeing all the debris / artifacts beneath the transmission differential.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:49 pm
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Don,

Was CK missing the escape hatch? There were a few Shermans at Rose BKS, and one was missing the hatch, some of my fellow HS comrades used it as a "smoke" hut... I cannot recall which one it was, I never actually went in, the tank was on the HQ lawn and I would be the one who got caught, plus I had no desire for a run in with the pot heads.... I did peek inside once, it was a mess.
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