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Three Amigos in Lesany
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:33 pm
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Dear colleagues,
with a history of Czechoslovak military museums it's complicated. In socialist Czechoslovakia was this military museum:

Museum of Czechoslovak Army,
Zizkov in Prague (former National Liberation Monument, founded in ~ 1930)
- Historical exhibition,
- Historical Institute,
- Library,
- Depository.

Military Historical Museum,
Hradcany in Prague (1948-2002)
- Historical exhibition (Middle Ages),
- Depository.

Air and Space Museum,
Kbely in Prague (founded in 1968)
- Aeronautical exposure,
- Astronautically exposure,
- Artillery exposure,
- Exposure of ground equipment,
- Depository.

Military museums of the Slovakia not covered.


Since 1993, the Army of the Czech Republic holds:

The Army Museum Zizkov

- Historical exhibition,
- Historical Institute,
- Library,
- Depository.

The Aviation Museum Kbely
- Aeronautical exposure,
- Astronautically exposure,
- Depository.

The Military Technical Museum Lesany (created in 1995)
- Exposure of ground equipment,
- Depository.

After 1993, created a lot of private military museums that are administered by various foundations.

P. S.
Photos of the inside of armoured trains do not know, but I'll ask.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:29 pm
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I was getting more curios about the armored rail wagon i n Lesany, so I took a look at "German Armored Trains 1904-1945" by Wolfgang Sawodny (Schiffer Publishing)

Sawodny says it's:

"The command car of the Czech armored train "President T. G. Masaryk" (undoubtedly of German provenance, but not corresponding to the standard BP 42/44 type), which after the Czechs did away with the armored train weapon was dug in at an airfield as an underground command post"

The fact it came from an airfield maybe explain why it was initially on display at kbely.

Massimo


Do you (or anybody) know of any good online sources of interior shots of some of the armored trains, historical or recent? That would make for some interesting viewing. I might have gotten into the one at Parola if we'd had more time since I was with the director, but time was limited and there's a lot to see there. February in Finland can be distinctly chilly when the sun goes down.
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I was getting more curios about the armored rail wagon i n Lesany, so I took a look at "German Armored Trains 1904-1945" by Wolfgang Sawodny (Schiffer Publishing)

Sawodny says it's:

"The command car of the Czech armored train "President T. G. Masaryk" (undoubtedly of German provenance, but not corresponding to the standard BP 42/44 type), which after the Czechs did away with the armored train weapon was dug in at an airfield as an underground command post"

The fact it came from an airfield maybe explain why it was initially on display at kbely.

Massimo
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Cromwell IV by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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Centurion Mk 9 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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Massimo,
the expert of local conditions says, that was restored to its original appearance Mercedes 170V in camouflage Luftwaffe.
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Bedford 15cwt by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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Bedford MWD by Massimo Foti, on Flickr
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The armoured rail wagon was in Kbely in 1998, even if Lesany was already opened.
The Mercedes 170V that in 1998 was in Lesany instead, is now in Kbely.

Massimo
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Dear Colleague,
in museum Kbely only stayed aircraft. Ground equipment was relocated to a new military technical museum in Lesany.
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Armoured wagon by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

This used to be in Kbely
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Ammo rail car by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Used to transport ammunition for german 80 cm rail gun:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...rer_Gustav


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The SA-1 lacks fins at the rear.
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5Ya23 mean SA-2 Guideline. Thanks Jiri!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:11 pm
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Thank you Doug.

Let's start from the beginning, you don't see SA-1 that often:


SA-1 Guild by Massimo Foti, on Flickr


Massimo.
missile is in Cyrillic Marked as: 5Ya23. Sorry, more not help, I do not know codes NATO and Soviet missiles.
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