±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 225
Total: 225
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Community Forums
03: Photo Gallery
04: CPGlang
05: Home
06: Photo Gallery
07: Community Forums
08: Downloads
09: Home
10: Member Screenshots
11: Community Forums
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: Photo Gallery
16: Photo Gallery
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Photo Gallery
20: Community Forums
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: Member Screenshots
26: Photo Gallery
27: Photo Gallery
28: Photo Gallery
29: Photo Gallery
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Photo Gallery
33: Home
34: Photo Gallery
35: Community Forums
36: Photo Gallery
37: Your Account
38: Photo Gallery
39: Community Forums
40: Photo Gallery
41: Community Forums
42: Photo Gallery
43: Photo Gallery
44: Downloads
45: Photo Gallery
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Photo Gallery
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Photo Gallery
52: Photo Gallery
53: Photo Gallery
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Photo Gallery
58: Photo Gallery
59: Community Forums
60: Photo Gallery
61: Home
62: Community Forums
63: Photo Gallery
64: Home
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Home
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: News
71: Community Forums
72: Photo Gallery
73: Photo Gallery
74: Community Forums
75: Photo Gallery
76: Community Forums
77: Home
78: Home
79: Photo Gallery
80: Photo Gallery
81: Home
82: Photo Gallery
83: Photo Gallery
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Your Account
100: Photo Gallery
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Photo Gallery
104: Home
105: Home
106: News Archive
107: Home
108: Photo Gallery
109: Downloads
110: Photo Gallery
111: Photo Gallery
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Photo Gallery
115: Home
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Photo Gallery
124: Community Forums
125: Photo Gallery
126: Community Forums
127: Photo Gallery
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Photo Gallery
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Home
136: Photo Gallery
137: Community Forums
138: Downloads
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: Downloads
142: Photo Gallery
143: Community Forums
144: Photo Gallery
145: Photo Gallery
146: Photo Gallery
147: Community Forums
148: Photo Gallery
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Photo Gallery
152: Home
153: Photo Gallery
154: Home
155: Community Forums
156: Photo Gallery
157: Photo Gallery
158: Community Forums
159: Photo Gallery
160: Community Forums
161: Home
162: Your Account
163: Downloads
164: Photo Gallery
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Home
168: Community Forums
169: Photo Gallery
170: Photo Gallery
171: Downloads
172: Downloads
173: Home
174: Community Forums
175: Photo Gallery
176: Photo Gallery
177: Downloads
178: Photo Gallery
179: Community Forums
180: Photo Gallery
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Home
184: Photo Gallery
185: Photo Gallery
186: Photo Gallery
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: Home
192: Home
193: Community Forums
194: Photo Gallery
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: News
198: Community Forums
199: Photo Gallery
200: Photo Gallery
201: Community Forums
202: Photo Gallery
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Home
206: Photo Gallery
207: Photo Gallery
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: News Archive
211: Photo Gallery
212: Downloads
213: Home
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Community Forums
218: Home
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Community Forums
225: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Fort Benning / Fort Lee Updates?
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Fort Benning / Fort Lee Updates?

- Joe_D
Just absolutely sickens me that both Aberdeen and Knox's collections along with their archives are now unavailable for public access and will be for the rest of my life it seems. The real danger is the longer they go "Tucked Away" the greater the chance of them being irrelevant to future generations. Then one day someone will realize the loss and will have to scrape together whatever survived and lament how a Nation so rich allowed this history to decay and disappear. Don't think some "Unscrupulous" individuals wouldn't be tempted to "Liberate" items and Documents while in storage, History has seen this before. I truly hope I am wrong. But in the meantime I have no plans to leave my collection of TM's and photos to any Government run establishment based on what I've seen lately, unless (Shames me to say this) it's another Country that actually would appreciate it or a private institution that has an actual trust that is adhered to.

Hoping things change and keeping my fingers crossed.


Joe,
Increasingly, it's private and especially university collections that can be most relied upon (in this country, anyway) to preserve archival materials. The issue is identifying the most reliable repository, which varies according to focus. (We've just seen what can happen with private collections)

Currently (and for quite some time now), the most reliable and dedicated facility related to Vietnam-related collections (for example) is the Vietnam Center & Archive at Texas Tech University. They have climate controlled facilities for the archive of any and all personal collections that do not circulate, but are available on-site for review by researchers, etc. They accept anything from a single document to the recent donation of four restored Vietnam-service helicopters from Chuck Carlock (!)

The Carlock Helicopter Collection

I have a couple of footlockers of personal VN stuff from photo albums, documents and artifacts that I intend to bequeath to the collection, because I most trust them with this stuff compared to ANY government-operated entity.

The Vietnam Center and Archive

You just need to find the most appropriate place for your collection. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
piney
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 2330
Location: Republic of Southern New Jersey
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Fort Benning / Fort Lee Updates?

Doug
not to get OT but on your Aberdeen visit did Bob manage to get you into the "hidden" small arms room. Just the items in that room represented an enormous treasure of history and study opportunities. I haven't heard one word about those items and I wonder where they ended up.

_________________
The only good skwerril is a dead un
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 26, 2011
Posts: 908
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Fort Benning / Fort Lee Updates?

Piney/Doug, I remember seeing the swords and older rifles in a room across from the Ordnance Museum. These were shown to me by a staff member when I was helping restore the Ford 3 ton tank. The building is long torn down, any idea if they went to the National archives? Rick
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail AIM Address Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Fort Benning / Fort Lee Updates?

- piney
Doug
not to get OT but on your Aberdeen visit did Bob manage to get you into the "hidden" small arms room. Just the items in that room represented an enormous treasure of history and study opportunities. I haven't heard one word about those items and I wonder where they ended up.


I have taken an oath of silence regarding "The Vault". Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
piney
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 2330
Location: Republic of Southern New Jersey
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Fort Benning / Fort Lee Updates?

now I wish I had taken a lot more photos, I had to take 3 oaths of silence Wink

like a visit to Aladin's cave of wonders

_________________
The only good skwerril is a dead un


Last edited by piney on Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:24 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:22 pm
Post subject: Re: Fort Benning / Fort Lee Updates?

- piney
now I wish I had taken a lot more photos, I had to take 3 oaths of silence Smile


I have a few pics of the place I did not go. Rolling Eyes
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:59 am
Post subject: Re: Fort Benning / Fort Lee Updates?

[/quote] Increasingly, it's private and especially university collections that can be most relied upon (in this country, anyway) to preserve archival materials. The issue is identifying the most reliable repository, which varies according to focus. (We've just seen what can happen with private collections)[/quote]

We have been working diligently to build our archival collection and make it searchable for folks wanting to do research, but in todays climate, it is a battle just to keep the lights on. When I see what the Army did to their museum system, it makes me ill, I would give my right arm for just a tiny portion of what they fritter away.
www.mimths.org
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:29 am
Post subject: Re: Fort Benning / Fort Lee Updates?

the time I visited the vault at Aberdeen we had no security checks, you could have walked out with anything you could carry. I was surprised.. but not very.
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:48 am
Post subject: Re: Fort Benning / Fort Lee Updates?

- armyjunk2
the time I visited the vault at Aberdeen we had no security checks, you could have walked out with anything you could carry. I was surprised.. but not very.


I'm given to understand that some sort of audit had revealed concerns along those lines, leading to a lot more discretion regarding visitor access and pledges of triple-secret silence.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 3 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum