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Panther II
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:36 pm
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Interesting King Tiger Start-up using crank

www.youtube.com/watch?...re=related

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From the whine, that is clearly an inertial starter such as found on many period aircraft. In this case, they are winding up a flywheel by hand (rather than electrically) until it has stored enough energy to engage a clutch which is what the guy does at the end. This then turns the engine enough to fire. If it doesn't, rinse and repeat.
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'Yup, that be the process' It's not an easy crank either, especially having to increase the speed, the resistance seems to remain a constant.

I believe the problem with 'our' Panzer III was the electric starter is nonfunctional.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:52 pm
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'Yup, that be the process' It's not an easy crank either, especially having to increase the speed, the resistance seems to remain a constant.

I believe the problem with 'our' Panzer III was the electric starter is nonfunctional.

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Yep, you're just accelerating the starter flywheel, so the resistance is roughly constant, though the speed with which you need to crank may increase.

I believe the command for this is "Crank harder, Private!", or words to that effect. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:06 pm
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My response to that very same 'request' was quite indecent, but was so out of breath, It only seemed to drool & spit on myself,.....of course, that was on the FOURTH 'rinse & repeat' cycle.....!!

BTW:
Today in a brief RMP visit I happened to locate some interesting items,.....the 'Spare' Panther Engine parts.



These parts went to the Panther 'G', which were removed in the 1973 rebuild of the Panther II.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:28 pm
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This thread got me looking back through old photos to find the shots I took when I saw the Panther take part in the July 1977 Living History Show. I thought others might enjoy seeing them. It was quite a thrill for all present to see the Panther drive by and then take part in a brief battle re-enactment.

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Alf

Those are amazing! Thank you for sharing them.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:40 am
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When I used to visit the Patton Museum back in the mid-70s for the Living History exhibits I was able to go over to the motor pool and hear what was at that time the freshly restored Panther II/G hybrid. THe engine was impressive for about 30 sec. it then backfired a dozen times and quit. It couldn't be restarted. That always colored my personal opinion of the mighty Panther tank.

I thought that Phil Cavanaugh and his team had sent all the measurements of the hull to the Panther experts and it was confirmed that the Patton Museum had a Panther II test bed hull.
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