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NEW TANK LISTS M-60'S and others
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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Neil_Baumgardner
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:47 am
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FYI, I am currently incorporating all of these listings into the AFV Register. In a few cases they confirm info I already have (sometimes with the addition of an SN I didnt have), and in a few others I have been able to confirm by finding a picture of the VFW Post or an article, etc...

The majority will say "Unconfirmed" on the right-hand notes section (not just in the footnotes). I briefly considered just listing all the unconfirmed in a supplement, but decided that the purpose of the entire register is to provide a single, easy to reference guide. Otherwise you'd have to flip between two different listings for each state - and I just didnt think that would be user-friendly. Hopefully we can confirm a number of these in the coming months etc.

Of course this also likely means a sizeable increase in the register - probably by about an additional 100 pages or so...

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I agree with your approach

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Yeah, I hate to put in a lot of listings that may be bogus - but I dont see another way around it. The good news is the majority - modern stuff like M60s, M113s, M114s etc - are probably accurate. Its the WWII stuff that is likely suspect...

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AJ2,
Thank you very much for getting this list. I now have to dedicate an extra year of my life to photograph all the M60's in the US Laughing .


Tanker 2010
There are 2 M60 slicks, M60A0's, what ever you want to call them I don't see on your list....


I know about those along with the one parked in front of the Manhattan Regional Airport between Junction City and Manhattan. I know of a few that aren't on the TACOM list either. I think the reason why they are not on the list is because technically they still are signed for by the Gaurd units if they are in front of an Armory. Even if they fall off the books at State level, the Army still has it noted that the State has it. It's only when they tranfer them to civilian resposibility they make the list. BTW, IIRC, You Kansas tankers have the honor of being the last US combat unit to use the M60 tank. Riley MATES is where you kept most of them. It was around the mid to late 90's when they finally were turned in.

AJ2,
All Army tanks still belong to TACOM. Almost all of these on the list finished out their active service in the Gaurd or Reserves (The reserves did have tanks until they moved all combat units to the gaurd). Not sure if you meant the Gaurd tanks fell under a differerent catagory like the Marines.

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Hey Army Junk

if your interested, you can add an F-86H Sabre Dog and a UH-1 huey at Burlington Township at the municipal complex and park about 60 yards from Rt. 660 AKA Old York Road Burlington County NJ, and a P-38 in Thomas Maguire's markings on a pylon at Maguire AFB

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Joe, I'm not sure what I meant......you guys are the experts on this. But I do notice the Guard items, tracks displayed at Armories don't seem to be on the list. We have a dozen or so here in Louisville that aren't on it.
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AJ2,
Yes, I guess Neils list will probably be the most accurate list of ALL vehicles in the US. I still think it should be available in hard copy at all museums across the US. Now it's up to the CIA to verify a lot of these newer listings you acquired. Let the hunt begin.

BTW, I noticed on the TACOM list a lot of Tanks don't have Serial Numbers but instead have
#Num!
. Is this how it is actually listed or is it because it's on an excell sheet and the font is to crowded. Also, I don't see any M728's listed (CEV's).


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Neil,
No, the armory at 500 Airport Rd. is the Manhattan armory, the Bn. HQ. The one I'm talking about is in Junction City, on the other side of FT. Riley.

Joe,
Yup, they didn't call 1-635AR "Dino Tankers" for nothing. We got M1IP's in `98 and turned in the M60A3's. We were the last full Bn. to have them. D Co. 1-4IN was stil using A3's at CMTC in Germany as late as early `03, I saw them, but that doesn't count. They were the OPFOR there. When 635AR formed in `76 there were 2 Bn.'s with Slick 60's. They had them till the late `80's when they got the A3's. 2-635AR was stood down in`95.

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Uh... tanker... 500 Airport Rd is listed in Junction City, not Manhattan.

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Hi Folks!

There's an airport in Junction City? When did that happien?

Back when I was with the 1st Bn (Lt), 63rd Ar, (rear detachment) 1st Infantry Division in 1968-1969, there was no civilian airport anywhere near that part of Kansas. One had to go all the way to Kansas City (KC) for a civilian fiight.

During my time there, a C Company TF road marched Sheridans from Ft. Riley, via the interstate, to KC for an airlift, via C-133s, down to Ft Steward, GA. Those Sheridans were booking down the road and best I can remember, we didn't lose a one on that trip.

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Note: C-133 is not a type-o.
Bob (F15) do you remember that type or are you to young to have known them?

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Junction City Municipal Airport apparently:

maps.google.com/maps?q...p&ct=title

And this site lists B Co, 1-635 Armor as being at that address:
www.1800goguard.com/KS...x.php#unit

tanker, can you also tell me if there is an M114 in Junction City, perhaps at the Geary County Convention & Visitors Bureau or some local park?

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- Roy_A_Lingle
Hi Folks!

Note: C-133 is not a type-o.
Bob (F15) do you remember that type or are you to young to have known them?


Well I know about them and worked with a couple guys who had worked on them but they were gone by the time I came in.

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Hi Bob (F15)! Hi Folks!

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Hi Folks!

Note: C-133 is not a type-o.
Bob (F15) do you remember that type or are you to young to have known them?


Well I know about them and worked with a couple guys who had worked on them but they were gone by the time I came in.


I remember them as the largest aircraft (A/C) I had ever seen. The two flights I was one, the A/C carried a M551, a M35 with trailier, and four M-151s with trailiers. The load masters picked up two of the jeep trailers, turned them over and placed them on top the other two jeep trailers. It was many years before I saw a C-5 prototype at Pope Air Force by Ft. Bragg.

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for the undereducated here is a picture of the wee beastie with some jeeps for scale

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