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But on this photo it looks more realistic

Yes, I know.

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But on this photo it looks more realistic.
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So the M 15/42 wasn't a scale model after all Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:49 am
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Could be this

www.feldgrau.eu/index....y=17&hit=1

be the:

M15/42 – Unknown private collection (Italy) – running condition
This tank is a runner and was restored from a wreck (miles.forumcommunity forum). No more information are currently available
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well, this FT-17 is a fake one. It has no original WW1 parts and was entirely built from new material.

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P-O, FYI
www.waymarking.com/way...gne_France



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The Pz 39 is alive and kicking in Schaffhausen

I also managed to be in Bergamo, got good news and plenty of pictures. See the dedicated thread.

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No need to apologize, take your time.

In the meantime I should be able to collect more contributions, I am still chasing that elusive Pz 39 in Switzerland, and should be in Bergamo next week (hope the weather will be good).

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:31 pm
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Thanks Massimo for the information. Sorry but I don't have much free times to do all the updates.. they will be done, however Mr. Green

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I was reviewing Surviving_Italian_Medium_Heavy_Tanks.pdf today, because I plan to be in Bergamo next month (should have good news and better pictures from the Semovente over there). I realized you are still looking for "M14/41 - Museo della Motorizzazione Militare della Cecchignola".

That M14/41 used to be at Cecchignola, Roma, but was moved to Museo dei Carristi, Roma in the '90. I remember talking with a NCO from Cecchignola who was quiet upsed about that, because the tank was restored by Cecchignola's crew and they had to give it away due to an order "from above". Even worst, Museo dei Carristi stores tanks on the outside, while at Cecchignola the tank was under cover.

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well, it would be interesting to know what happened to some historic tanks located in Irak, such as some Sherman (a sort of scrapyard was shown on the internet with dozens of Shermies and M36 TDs..) T-34/85 tanks, other WW2 stuff, and overall, the "10.5 cm leFH 18(Sf) auf Geschützwagen Lorraine Schlepper (f) – Bassorah area (Iraq)" with the current location and fate unknown.
Was it recovered from there? I guess that no, it wasn't.

photo of the beast :



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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 6:15 pm
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Hi,

There was a 33 recovered from Iraq in 2004. I found it at COB Speicher, near Tikrit. Well, "found it" may be a bit strong...it was perched on a hump outside a maintenance shop, but I was the one who recognized it as something of an oddity in Iraq.

After I notified the 1st Infantry Division historian, the 33 was collected and moved to either Germany or the US. There was a dispute among the Army museums about who should get it, but I think the 1st ID won because they actually had possession of it. The intent was to restore and display it, but I have no idea what actually happened to it.

If it is in Germany, it is probably in Vilseck or Grafenwoehr. If it is in the US, it could be at Ft. Riley where much of the division ended up. If not, I have no idea where else it might have gone.

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Take your time, no need to hurry up. You have done a terrific job already.

Thanks for the clarification on the OT-810 as well.

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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:17 pm
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- Tichenor
New register :

M26 Pershing register

The file may contain some mistakes, as I don't know how to recognize an M26 Pershing from an M46 Patton..


Hi P-O

I always look at the back of the vehicle, at a M26 Pershing the sprocket wheel is placed much lower than on a M46. The track makes a good visible bend downward. That makes the entry for South Korea to my opinion A M46.

Michel


well, I have to check this..

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Massimo,

thanks for all the information.
The L3 carrier PDF file is a project and I already have some materials about it but as you said, it will require some time and work to list all of them. Now I'm busy and can't publish new registers, only update the older ones. New registers will of course be put online, but not before August.

That's the reason why I added the L6 light tanks with the Italian medium tanks. Anyway there were not enough of them to put them in a single file.

To answer to your first inquiry, the Half-Track in Full/Reuenthal is an OT-810 and not an SdKfz 251.

kind regards,

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