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Wrecks and relics in the USA
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:12 pm
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just sent my personal predator UAV to check and it's still there

Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:16 pm
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- piney
just sent my personal predator UAV to check and it's still there

lol

Jeff Lewis
Why does the gov't spend so much money on spy satelites when there is GOOGLE_EARTH

(Do you have a time stamp on that photo?, the 'Pink Panther' photo in another thread was taken at least 21 years ago!)

And it's even closer to the S-I-L!!

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:53 pm
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Why does the gov't spend so much money on spy satelites when there is GOOGLE_EARTH?)


Oh, you must be pulling our legs...?

The US government did pay for all those birds! IKONOS is the last of the Keyhole series. It was reassigned as part of the famous peace dividend. A lot of Google Earth is from Space Imaging. The rest they've filled in with misc coverage from GOK (ie God Only Knows).

Declassified multispectral images are available from all Remote Sensed Imagery agencies (from India to Russia and Brazil) to anyone with an end user agreement and a bank account. But nothing on Google Earth has metadata which makes it instantly suspect.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:54 pm
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There is an M4 (not sure what variant) at the 107th Cavalry armory in Ravenna, Ohio.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:50 am
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that image is dated 2006 Bob. wish I had my slides handy I could check and see if that wood block is in my panther photos

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:30 am
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I'll bet its listed in Rob Griffin's book, I'll have to look it up tonight.


There are a few tanks listed in Griffin's book as being in the USA, and many listed without a fate, but I couldnt find anything specifically referring to this one. But I have e-mailed Rob to see what he knows.

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:38 am
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Here in Bowling Green, Kentucky there is an M60 (not sure which model, but probably M60A1) parked in front of the local VFW post along with a WW2 vintage M5 3" antitank gun. Both are currently wearing desert sand paintwork. The gun has been there as long as I can remember, the tank at least 10 years or more.

The local Legion post used to have an M26 Pershing, but it was removed many years ago.

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:42 pm
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Here is a list of tanks and artillery in Nebraska. This is not complete, but these have all been seen by me in person. I know the list has more than "tanks, but I record it all together.

By the way, the reported "M47" at Lincoln is an M60.

Auburn M4A1E8, City Park off Hwy 75
Bancroft M60A3, City Park
Battle Creek M551, City Park
Beatrice M4A1E8, City Park off Hwy 77
Beaver Crossing M60A3, City Park
Cedar Bluff M60A3, near ball diamonds
Crete M4A1E8, County court house lawn
David City M5 light tank in city park
Dorchester M60A3, downtown
Elkhorn M60A3, City park
Fairbury
M4A1E8, town museum
M60, City Park
M60A3, VFW post
Falls City M60A3 & M110A2, VFW post off Hwy 75
Friend 75Pack How, City Park
Geneva M60A3, city park
Gretna M60A3, at VFW post
Holdrege M4A1E8, City Park
Kearney M4A3E8, in cemetery
Lexington M4A1E8 & M60A3 and others, at Heartland Military Vehicle Museum off I-80
Lincoln M60, M4A3E8, M59, M113
Lyons M4A3E8, city park
Madison 75Pack How, city park
Millard M60, VFW post
Nebraska City M60A3, city park off Hwy2
Neligh M60A3, city park
Oakland 155How, downtown near VFW
Omaha M60, at Fitzgerald Veterans’ Home
Pierce 8� How, city park
Stanton 57AT gun, at crossroads
Sydney 3in AT gun, old Fort Sydney museum
Tekamah M4A3-105H, Court house lawn
Tecumseh M4A3E8, court house lawn
West Point M60A3, city park
Wilber M4A1E8, city park
Winside M60A3, city park
Yutan M60A3, near VFW on Hwy 92

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:09 am
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ABERDEEN, MARYLAND
Army base - Ordnance museum:
Leopard 1 DEU 10586/T36 pre, ex Cologne (DEU) apr05


Where did you find the serial info? I believe this is a Leo 1 prototype...

If I remember correctly I got the serial from a forum, could be very well the old AFV forum. It is indeed a prototype.

M4 Sherman USA 16917 pre aug05


Has experimental HVSS suspension


M4A1 Sherman FRA std, ex Mannheim (DEU)? dec05


Last owner was the USA Army, as monument in Europe. But France probably was the last "user."

Yes, I list the last user, otherwise it is even more difficult with privatly owned tanks etc.


PzKpfw IV ausf.F2 DEU pre may04
PzKpfw IV Thoma DEU pre dec03


Not sure which one this is...

There is the PzKpfw IV Ausf FG mit hydrostatischen Antrieb at the museum and an Ausf D/E/F (mix?) on the new Mile of Tanks..


One (the sectionalized one) is a Model 1945. Why do you say one is from Germany? Since they both arrived in '51, I suspect they came from Korea...

There is also a JS-3M, from Egypt by way of Israel... I guess Egypt would be the last "user."

Both corrected

Neil


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:21 am
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Fort Lewis in the state of Washington, not Washington DC - you got me excited there for a minute!

Neil[/quote]

Didn't know, Is corrected. The Sherman in Nokesville could indeed be a vehicle from the VMMS

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:26 am
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Very interesting... This is the first I have heard of an MBT-70 at Fort Polk... Whats the basis for your info? Any pics? Anyone else have any info on this, can confirm or deny?

Neil

Also corrected, no MBT70

...is not in San Diego, or even close. El Monte is actually in East Los Angeles, lest someone take a wrong turn into the wrong neighborhood.

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Yes, you wrote this earlier on, but I forgot to correct. Know I have done it immediately!
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:53 am
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L

An excellent listing.

Just a few notes.

PzKpfw V Panther A DEU pre mar05
PzKpfw V Panther G DEU std oct05
PzKpfw V Panther II DEU 120417 pre, with ausf.G turret oct05


Shocked (I wish...!!)
We only have 2 Panthers here currently. The Panther 'G' & Panther II.

T28 USA pre jul04
T95 USA std jul04


This is the same vehicle, a double listing. Only two were built but only one exists. Wink


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:47 am
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Leslie,
The following list is of M60’s that I have documented/photographed in detail. They are still in their current display locations. The nomenclatures are basic. If you need I can give more information on any particular model. Almost all have Serial numbers. I can provide registration numbers for about half. I also have a list of M60’s that are targets, wrecks, other sources, and possible locations if you are interested.

M60 #1332 VFW Hall, Airport Road, Jonesboro AR
M60 #1406 Armory, Blytheville AR
M60A1 #3078 IR Skidgel Hall, FT Knox KY
M60A1 #5106 Patton Museum Inside, FT Knox KY
M60A1 #6241 Brave Rifles and Wilson, FT Knox KY
M60A1 #6346 Quinn Hall, FT Knox KY
M60A1 #7109 Reactive Armor, USMC DET, FT Knox, KY
M60A1 #8587 Brandenburg Station Gate, FT Knox KY
M60A1 #8679 Burger King, FT Knox KY
M60A1 #8692 HWY 31W, West Point KY
M60A1 #9349 FT Knox Bldg 6590 KY
M60A1 #9357 Patton Museum lawn, FT Knox KY
M60A3 #2004A Brandenburg Station Gate, FT Knox KY
M60A3 #2278A FT Knox MATES KY
M60A3 #2394A 16th CAV HQ Ft Knox KY
M60A3 #2448A Sadowski field house Fort Knox KY
M60A3 #3854A 16th CAV HQ Ft Knox KY
M60A3 #2527A Armory, Benton KY
M60 ---- Camp Shelby Museum MS
M60 ---- Camp Shelby MATES site MS
M60 ---- Camp Shelby 87th Division BDE HQ’s
M60A3 #8111 Veterans Park, Sikeston MO
M60 #75 3330 Sutherland Ave, Knoxville Armory TN
M60 #95 413 County Rd 554, off S HWY 30, Athens Armory TN
M60A3 #3926A VFW Post 5146, 706 N Congress PKWY, Athens TN
M60 #723 Cookeville TN
M60A3 #3712A Alvin York Armory, HWY 127 next to Airport, Jamestown TN.
M60 #1128 Ft Hood Range Control TX
M60 #1420 Ft Hood 4ID Museum TX
M60 #504 Ft Hood 1CD Museum TX
M60A1 #8800 Ft Hood 1CD Museum TX
M60A3 #3079A Reactive Armor Ft Hood 1CD Museum TX
M60A3 #3293A Battalion Road, Ft Hood TX
M60A3 #3631A North FT Hood MATES TX
M60A3 #6903 Veterans Park, Corner of Oak and Elm, Boscobel WI
M60A3 #3688A Volk Field, WI National Guard Museum, Camp Douglas WI
M60A3 #4117M Glendale Park, Kendall WI
M60A3 #3391A 16 W Main ST, La Valle WI
M60A3 #3382 VFW Post 9298, Main and Fountain Streets, Montfort WI
M60A3 #969 Prairie Du Chien, WI
M60A3 #4118M American Legion Post HWY 21, Sparta WI
M60A3 #3728A VFW Post 2112, Rusk Ave, Sparta WI
M60 #1285 Veterans drive V.A., Tomah WI
M60A3 #3386 VFW Post 3032, HWY 14/61 South, Viroqua WI.
M60A3 #3407A VFW post, Wisconsin street, Lyndon Station WI
M60A3 #2949A FT McCoy Museum WI.
M60A3 #4121M HWY 80, New Lisbon WI.
M60A3 #3672A American Legion Post 220, HWY 61, Soldier Grove WI

The M60 #75 is not a training tank, it is one of the original batch made at the Newark Delaware plant by Chrysler.

The XM-1 at Fort Campbell KY is the Chrysler (NOT GM) Diesel variant.

I have some other corrections for your list and will send you the updates when I get more time. Your list has helped me with my M60 quest, unfortunately it will have to be put on hold for a while

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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:11 pm
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Last time (boy must be going on 7 years now) I was at the Presidio in San Francisco there was a M41 on the grounds near the base museum. Need to get back up there someday.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 7:19 pm
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Last time (boy must be going on 7 years now) I was at the Presidio in San Francisco there was a M41 on the grounds near the base museum. Need to get back up there someday.
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It's at Camp Roberts now.

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