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Finally, public display for part of The Wheatcroft Collectio
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Pzkpfw-e
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:32 am
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Finally uploaded some photos.
Not in the "Massimo League" for equipment & quality.
pzkpfw-e.pixa.us/albums/81190/
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:15 am
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Just seen a photo on the HMVF boards, there's a second Kettenkrad, a Kubelwaggen & an RSO there too. They weren't on display when I visited.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:28 am
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Which RSO is there ? Because there are 3 RSO in The Wheatcroft Collection.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:15 am
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The restored RSO 01 is there.
The RSO 03 from Wheatcroft is currently in Luxemburg for restoration
And about the third RSO , I am not sure if Wheatcroft still got it
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:39 am
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speaking german can be handy Wink

The Trippel SG 6 Schwimmwagen

www.film-autos.com/fun...?fz_id=150

This vehicle is located in Germany
About 1000 vehicles have been build

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nicr site, they even have a Tiger and an Panzer II for rent. Although the TIger looks awfully small Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:55 am
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- Michel_Krauss
speaking german can be handy Wink

The Trippel SG 6 Schwimmwagen

www.film-autos.com/fun...?fz_id=150

This vehicle is located in Germany
About 1000 vehicles have been build

Michel


"Die besten Autofilme" page...

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What....no "Grand Prix", "Le Mans", "The Italian Job", "Vanishing Point", ...but "Back to the Future" made the list?! Heresy! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:14 pm
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Dear Colleagues,
a local might know, but I'm an alien! Can I get the official address, or GPS coordinates?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:16 pm
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It's situated in the car museum attached to Donnington Park motor racing circuit, next to East Midlands Airport.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:16 am
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Legal Statement from Wheatcroft's lawyers re the Tiger II parts and the other questions about ownership of items currently on his premises.
www.pathfinderonline.c...-statement
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:23 pm
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Legal Statement from Wheatcroft's lawyers re the Tiger II parts and the other questions about ownership of items currently on his premises.
www.pathfinderonline.c...-statement


Hi,

Now THAT's funny! In the US we have an old joke, supposedly advice given to a police officer for use when accused of wrongdoing..."Deny, deny, deny, make counteraccusations!" I appears that Mr. Wheatcroft and his lawyers (solicitors?) have also heard this.

And you all are now to stop talking about it, because otherwise his lawyers will get you. No more speculations, and don't expect any more information from them. Just stop talking about it. Apparently Mr. Wheatcroft and his legal advisers haven't had much dealing with the internet!

I'm pretty cynical, so this only heightens my suspicion that there might be something he doesn't want to discuss. It seems more defensive in tone than it should be, and makes me wonder what it doesn't say or what they prefer to avoid discussing. I guess a hazard of being a reclusive and secretive collector of historical items is that people fill in the gaps in what you decline to discuss...unlike a certain other California collector.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:50 pm
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Legal Statement from

And you all are now to stop talking about it, because otherwise his lawyers will get you. No more speculations, and don't expect any more information from them. Just stop talking about it. Apparently Mr. Wheatcroft and his legal advisers haven't had much dealing with the internet!

Chuck


Boilerplate threat letter (only even less serious as it is not directed to anyone in particular) calculated to mute discussion of a topic the client finds embarrassing or otherwise "inconvenient". If it works, great, it's like a billable half-hour to someone's firm. If not, well, shucks.

Discussion is fine, unsupportable accusations are not. I'm sure all forum members recognize this.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:52 pm
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Interesting to see the Ordnance Museum element of this.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:16 pm
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- Doug_Kibbey
Discussion is fine, unsupportable accusations are not. I'm sure all forum members recognize this.


well, everyone should know that the "truth" is always misconstrued, even by people who know the ins and the outs of something. The "truth" is always seen from someone's point of view. That's why we could always specualte about what really happened, or believe what someone said about this, but we (forum members) will never know all the facts that led to this situation. It is easy to accusate people of something, it is more difficult to know and understand what really happened, and why, and we have a tendency to focus on simple things (someone stole something, someone is a bad guy) instead of trying to understand.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:34 pm
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- Doug_Kibbey
Discussion is fine, unsupportable accusations are not. I'm sure all forum members recognize this.


well, everyone should know that the "truth" is always misconstrued, even by people who know the ins and the outs of something. The "truth" is always seen from someone's point of view. That's why we could always specualte about what really happened, or believe what someone said about this, but we (forum members) will never know all the facts that led to this situation. It is easy to accusate people of something, it is more difficult to know and understand what really happened, and why, and we have a tendency to focus on simple things (someone stole something, someone is a bad guy) instead of trying to understand.

Pierre-Olivier


Pierre-Olivier makes my point about Wheatcroft not being open about his collection and his activities. By remaining silent and somewhat secretive, he invites speculation that could easily be dispelled by more information than he is willing to provide. I'm not suggesting that Wheatcroft has an obligation to do or reveal anything he doesn't want to, but to forbid speculation about it is both naive and unrealistic. His silence invites commentary by others, informed or not.

Chuck

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:42 am
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I have visited Mr. Wheatcrofts collection and seen many of his vehicles on display at public events. It is great that he is setting the story straight about all these rumors. I have found him to be a gracious and kind host who has done so much for the preservation of history. Having dealt with the US army in the past, I understand his position and hope he holds fast to recovering what he is owed.
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