±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 748
Total: 748
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Photo Gallery
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Photo Gallery
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Photo Gallery
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Home
22: Photo Gallery
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Photo Gallery
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Photo Gallery
33: Home
34: Photo Gallery
35: Community Forums
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: Home
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Home
51: Community Forums
52: Photo Gallery
53: Downloads
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Photo Gallery
61: Member Screenshots
62: News Archive
63: Community Forums
64: Your Account
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Photo Gallery
76: Community Forums
77: Downloads
78: CPGlang
79: Community Forums
80: Photo Gallery
81: Photo Gallery
82: Photo Gallery
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Community Forums
86: Downloads
87: Home
88: Home
89: Community Forums
90: Photo Gallery
91: Photo Gallery
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: Photo Gallery
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Member Screenshots
102: Community Forums
103: Photo Gallery
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Member Screenshots
112: Photo Gallery
113: Community Forums
114: Downloads
115: Community Forums
116: Downloads
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: CPGlang
121: Photo Gallery
122: Home
123: Photo Gallery
124: Community Forums
125: Member Screenshots
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Photo Gallery
129: Downloads
130: Home
131: Photo Gallery
132: Home
133: Community Forums
134: Home
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: CPGlang
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Home
143: Community Forums
144: Photo Gallery
145: Photo Gallery
146: Community Forums
147: Photo Gallery
148: Home
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Photo Gallery
153: Community Forums
154: Your Account
155: Community Forums
156: Photo Gallery
157: Photo Gallery
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Photo Gallery
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: CPGlang
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Photo Gallery
174: Photo Gallery
175: Community Forums
176: Home
177: Community Forums
178: Your Account
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Downloads
183: Community Forums
184: News Archive
185: Photo Gallery
186: Home
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Downloads
190: Photo Gallery
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Community Forums
195: Photo Gallery
196: Home
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Photo Gallery
200: Photo Gallery
201: Community Forums
202: Home
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Your Account
206: Community Forums
207: Photo Gallery
208: Photo Gallery
209: Home
210: Photo Gallery
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Photo Gallery
216: CPGlang
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Photo Gallery
220: Community Forums
221: Photo Gallery
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: Member Screenshots
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Photo Gallery
228: Member Screenshots
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Photo Gallery
233: Downloads
234: Photo Gallery
235: Community Forums
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Home
241: Photo Gallery
242: CPGlang
243: Community Forums
244: Member Screenshots
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Photo Gallery
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Photo Gallery
253: Photo Gallery
254: Community Forums
255: Photo Gallery
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Photo Gallery
261: News Archive
262: Downloads
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Downloads
269: Community Forums
270: Member Screenshots
271: Home
272: Community Forums
273: Statistics
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Photo Gallery
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Your Account
282: Home
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Downloads
288: Community Forums
289: Photo Gallery
290: Downloads
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Photo Gallery
294: CPGlang
295: Community Forums
296: Photo Gallery
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Photo Gallery
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Your Account
303: Member Screenshots
304: Photo Gallery
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Your Account
309: CPGlang
310: Community Forums
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Photo Gallery
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Downloads
317: Community Forums
318: Photo Gallery
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Photo Gallery
322: Your Account
323: Home
324: Community Forums
325: Home
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: CPGlang
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Photo Gallery
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Home
337: Community Forums
338: Community Forums
339: CPGlang
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Photo Gallery
346: Downloads
347: Community Forums
348: Downloads
349: Your Account
350: Your Account
351: Photo Gallery
352: Community Forums
353: Photo Gallery
354: Community Forums
355: Downloads
356: Home
357: Community Forums
358: Photo Gallery
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Your Account
364: Community Forums
365: Home
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Downloads
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Downloads
373: Home
374: Community Forums
375: Photo Gallery
376: Community Forums
377: Photo Gallery
378: Photo Gallery
379: Downloads
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Member Screenshots
385: Community Forums
386: LinkToUs
387: Photo Gallery
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Photo Gallery
392: Community Forums
393: Photo Gallery
394: Downloads
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Photo Gallery
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Photo Gallery
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Community Forums
413: Photo Gallery
414: Community Forums
415: Photo Gallery
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Photo Gallery
419: Photo Gallery
420: Photo Gallery
421: Community Forums
422: Downloads
423: CPGlang
424: Community Forums
425: Community Forums
426: Home
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Home
431: Community Forums
432: Home
433: Photo Gallery
434: Photo Gallery
435: Community Forums
436: Home
437: Home
438: Home
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Your Account
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Community Forums
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Community Forums
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Downloads
454: Downloads
455: News Archive
456: Home
457: Community Forums
458: CPGlang
459: CPGlang
460: Downloads
461: Photo Gallery
462: Community Forums
463: Home
464: CPGlang
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Community Forums
470: Home
471: Community Forums
472: Search
473: Downloads
474: Community Forums
475: Home
476: Community Forums
477: Your Account
478: Member Screenshots
479: Community Forums
480: Photo Gallery
481: Community Forums
482: Photo Gallery
483: Community Forums
484: Photo Gallery
485: Community Forums
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Photo Gallery
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Community Forums
495: Photo Gallery
496: Downloads
497: Community Forums
498: CPGlang
499: Community Forums
500: Home
501: Community Forums
502: Home
503: Community Forums
504: Photo Gallery
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Home
510: CPGlang
511: CPGlang
512: CPGlang
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: CPGlang
519: Downloads
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Your Account
523: Home
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Home
530: Photo Gallery
531: Community Forums
532: Home
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Home
537: Photo Gallery
538: Community Forums
539: Member Screenshots
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Member Screenshots
543: CPGlang
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Member Screenshots
547: Downloads
548: Photo Gallery
549: Community Forums
550: Photo Gallery
551: Home
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Photo Gallery
555: Community Forums
556: Photo Gallery
557: Community Forums
558: Photo Gallery
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Photo Gallery
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: CPGlang
565: Community Forums
566: Member Screenshots
567: Community Forums
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Downloads
572: Photo Gallery
573: Photo Gallery
574: Community Forums
575: Photo Gallery
576: Community Forums
577: Community Forums
578: Photo Gallery
579: Community Forums
580: Photo Gallery
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Member Screenshots
587: Downloads
588: Photo Gallery
589: Community Forums
590: Home
591: Community Forums
592: Photo Gallery
593: Home
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Photo Gallery
599: Community Forums
600: Photo Gallery
601: Member Screenshots
602: Downloads
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Photo Gallery
606: Home
607: Member Screenshots
608: Member Screenshots
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Home
613: Community Forums
614: Search
615: Home
616: Community Forums
617: Community Forums
618: Your Account
619: Community Forums
620: Downloads
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Home
624: Downloads
625: Community Forums
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Home
631: Community Forums
632: Downloads
633: Community Forums
634: Photo Gallery
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Home
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: Photo Gallery
647: Community Forums
648: Downloads
649: Photo Gallery
650: Downloads
651: Your Account
652: Community Forums
653: Community Forums
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Photo Gallery
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Community Forums
660: Home
661: Community Forums
662: Community Forums
663: Home
664: CPGlang
665: Community Forums
666: Downloads
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Photo Gallery
670: Photo Gallery
671: CPGlang
672: Photo Gallery
673: Photo Gallery
674: Community Forums
675: Community Forums
676: Community Forums
677: Photo Gallery
678: Community Forums
679: Community Forums
680: Community Forums
681: Home
682: Home
683: Community Forums
684: News Archive
685: Community Forums
686: Community Forums
687: Photo Gallery
688: Community Forums
689: Home
690: Community Forums
691: Home
692: Member Screenshots
693: Photo Gallery
694: Member Screenshots
695: Member Screenshots
696: Community Forums
697: Community Forums
698: Community Forums
699: Community Forums
700: Photo Gallery
701: Community Forums
702: Community Forums
703: Downloads
704: Photo Gallery
705: Community Forums
706: Community Forums
707: Community Forums
708: Community Forums
709: Community Forums
710: Downloads
711: Community Forums
712: Home
713: Community Forums
714: Your Account
715: Community Forums
716: Photo Gallery
717: Community Forums
718: Home
719: Community Forums
720: Community Forums
721: Community Forums
722: Community Forums
723: Home
724: Photo Gallery
725: Community Forums
726: Community Forums
727: Photo Gallery
728: Community Forums
729: Home
730: Downloads
731: Community Forums
732: Community Forums
733: Community Forums
734: Community Forums
735: CPGlang
736: Home
737: Community Forums
738: Statistics
739: Community Forums
740: Downloads
741: Community Forums
742: Community Forums
743: Photo Gallery
744: Community Forums
745: Community Forums
746: Downloads
747: Community Forums
748: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Panzer salvage in Bulgaria
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

- fitzday
Correct me if i'm wrong, Shadock. These panzers were transfered to the Bulgarian army after the war by the Soviets from stocks of captured panzers. They were used until they could be replaced by Soviet manufactured tanks. They were then dug in on the Bulgarian/Turkish border as improvised pillboxes.


""Bulgaria received some 97 German Panzer IV tanks, about 100 Sturmgeschuetz III assault guns and Jagdpanzer IV tank destroyers when it joined the Nazis in World War II," said museum director Milenov.

Nearly half of these, around 40, were buried as defensive positions along the southeast borders, he said.

A second line of more than 100 Soviet-built T-34 tanks was then added following the 1974 Cyprus crisis. This was when an Athens-sponsored attempt to take control of the Mediterranean island led to Turkish intervention and occupation of about one-third of Cyprus."

http://news.smh.com.au/bulgaria-scrambles-to-rescue-forgotten-german-wwii-tanks/20080222-1ts6.html

Well, you're right there are 17 tanks, the turret which cazn be seen near the JAgdpanzer IV seems to be a T-34/76 turret, not a T-34/85 one.

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Rikard_Hufschmied
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 458
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:27 am
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

The only German tanks (that I know of) transfered from Soviet capture stocks were the 15 Panther D, A and G:s. I hope that some of these might turn up, damn I'd be happy if ONE would turn up!

_________________
Frustra Nate Vive Devincere
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Scott_Taylor
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 80
Location: London, Ontario
PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

Any photos of those Panthers in postwar Bulgarian service? I'm intrigued by this.

It's great to see these vehicles on the road to preservation. I'd love to see a Panzer IV make its way to Canada, but not optimistic.

Cheers,

Scott
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
palic
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 03, 2006
Posts: 172

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:31 pm
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

Bulgarian Panthers - links:
forum.valka.cz/downloa...p/id/35398
forum.valka.cz/downloa...p/id/35399
forum.valka.cz/downloa...p/id/35400

Czechoslovak (postwar) recovery turretless conversion - links:
forum.valka.cz/downloa...p/id/58181
forum.valka.cz/downloa...p/id/53727
forum.valka.cz/downloa...p/id/28714

Last picture taken from film on railroad accident (1958) - that Panther recovery vehicle was part of equipment of railway "repair and recovery train"... Mr. Green

WHERE HAVE ALL THESE PANTHERS GONE...?
Back to top
View user's profile
fitzday
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 04, 2007
Posts: 29

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

If I understand it right, the Bulgarian forums are saying that the T-34/76 turret is actually off of a soviet gunboat and not a T-34 hull. Does anyone know how you can tell the difference?

www.airgroup2000.com/f...&start=540
Back to top
View user's profile
VonForhud
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 17, 2010
Posts: 162

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:55 am
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

There is news about the Bulgarian Panzers.

vbox7.com/play:fcbc7d21

Takes ages to load, and its in Bulgarian language.

But surely good news.
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

well, it seems that they are preparing some items to display them in museums..
We need a guy able to translate bulgarian language..

Pierre-Olivier

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
JiriTintera
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jun 21, 2007
Posts: 218
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:39 am
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

Dear Sirs,
internet newsletter of the Bulgarian town of Sliven, said:

27th May 2011
Restore the unique tanks in Sliven

German tanks, popular as a Maybach, which is located on the border with Turkey were transported to the repair shop of the tank brigade in Sliven. Unique machines will be restored before being transferred to the military museum.

The technique is extremely valuable for collectors. Because illegal attempt to export abroad of one of the tanks against three people were brought.

In the repair shop in Sliven were brought 11 fully preserved tanks from World War II, as well as parts and domes for a few more chain machinery and artillery turrets.

Among the most valuable tanks, which are pending restoration Jagdpanzer engine of Maybach and T-4. From Jagdpanzer L-48 is reserved only 7 copies worldwide.

After half a century stay underground parts of the are in bad condition. Currently Tracked by remove paint and rust, welded to the damaged dome and the bumper. Ten of the tanks will be restored in a form close to authentic.

Work on the plant will take about a month. After restoration of combat equipment, take it to the museum.





Source:
sliven.tv7.bg/news/356502.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:23 pm
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

I'm hoping that the bit about the restoration taking a month is wrong!
Back to top
View user's profile
VonForhud
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 17, 2010
Posts: 162

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

Thank you for translating this!
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:04 am
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

New photos:

Stug (from Bulgaria ?)
www.scalemodels-bg.com...&start=930



PzKpfw IV and Jagdpanzer IV
www.scalemodels-bg.com...&start=885
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:09 am
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

PzKpfw III turret

www.scalemodels-bg.com...&start=885
Back to top
View user's profile
sil3nt
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 17, 2008
Posts: 75
Location: Poznan, Poland
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:45 am
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

Look like Stug from Riga ...

_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:36 am
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

- sil3nt
Look like Stug from Riga ...


Yes it does. That's why I wrote the ? mark
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Panzer salvage in Bulgaria

Well, they've stuck to their timetable for "restoration".
The PzIV looks quite good cosmetically.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 2 of 3
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum