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Preserved Tanks in the Netherlands
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:12 pm
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I only got one picture of the running T34 so thanks to Michel for the additional exterior shots and Lesley for the interior shots:

Unique ID 1726: Overloon T-34-85M

Lesley,%20do%20you%20have%20any%20comment%20on%20this%20number?


Does anyone have pictures of it running at Militracks? Tim?

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I only have 2 short movie clips, about 2 1/2 minutes in total and only 4 photo's

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:13 pm
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Trevor

I have sended you some by mail.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:07 am
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For this one I have s/n 47229 which was on the ''normal'' place on the glacis plate. The meaning of the painted number I don't know.

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A catch up of photo's I've been sent - thanks, guys!


Close ups of Centurion markings (from Michel and Lesley):

Unique ID 1724: Overloon Centurion

Sherman%20'After%20Hitler'%20engine%20(from%20Michel): Unique%20ID%201699:%20Overloon%20M4 Close%20ups%20of%20Leopard,%20M47,%20M109%20and%20M110%20markings%20(from%20Michel): Unique%20ID%201707:%20Overloon%20Leopard Unique%20ID%201717:%20Overloon%20M47 Unique%20ID%201719:%20Overloon%20M109 Unique%20ID%201720:%20Overloon%20M110 New%20photo's%20of%20the%20running%20T34%20during%20Militracks%20(from%20Walter%20and%20Michel): Unique%20ID%201726:%20Overloon%20T-34-85M

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:27 pm
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The last Soviet vehicle (my photo's and Michel's):

Unique ID 1725: Overloon IS-2m


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:25 pm
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Now some vehicles I didn't get to see during my recent trip. First the Valentine Bridgelayer (with pictures from Tim):


Unique ID 25: Overloon Valentine Bridgelayer


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:17 am
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Had an unexpected visit in the storage hangar of the Army museum at the former Soesterberg air base.No public acces since part of the former air base is still active military.

The following was noted;

AMX-13Au F3 r/n KN-70-14
Archer 17pdr r/n 20298
Centurion mk.5 w/20pdr r/n KX-10-85, found a number which was ''hull 157/150). This tank is a former Oirschot monument.
Dingo mk.2
DUKW 353 r/n 701548290 (former British, not part of the batch of 16 whic were on the inventory lists of the army)
Ferret mk.2 r/n KN-31-24, s/n 00-DA-52
FT17 (no s/n plate fount, it was in a German c/s when re-captured)
Leopard 1V s/n 8559 r/n KU-90-46 (r/n painted over)
Leopard 1V s/n 8767 r/n KU-91-65 (former A-coy, 49th tankbattalion, tact nr. ''20'' (parknummer))
M22 Locust
M29C Weasel s/n M29C-2516
M109A2/90 s/n 5287 (former A-coy, 14th Mech Art Bat wit tact nr ''224'' (parknummer))
M110A2 s/n 1411 r/n KZ-87-65. This vehicle was delivered in 1982
M113C&V s/n CR1-115
M139D w/Honest John missile s/n M139C0012
M577 (r/n KZ-76-02?)
M578 r/n KZ-77-05 s/n BMY1186
M668 Crane vehicle r/n KN-44-27
M752 Launch vehicle r/n KN-69-94 (former B-coy, 129th Rocket Art Bat)
Mineflail vehicle r/n KR-32-13 (former Reek???)
MLRS US Army, not a former NLD vehicle
PRTL s/n 35566 (PRTL prototype/pre-serie, the serie production vehicles have more space between the 3rd an 4th roadwheel)
Schwimmwagen Type 166 s/n 37796, Volkswagen nr 17877
T17E1
YP-408 (chassis only, for instructional purposes)
YP-408PWCO r/n KN-89-94, former support coy, 13th inf bat/brig
YP-408PWGWT r/n KN-90-46
YPR-765PRCO r/n KY-63-08 s/n NL1572DAF (painted in a white UNPROFOR c/s. Vehicle was used to train soldiers which went to Bosnia and is not actually used in Bosnia)

Also some artillery which I post in the artillery forum
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:53 am
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Thanks for the information

About all vehicles are part of the collection of the National Military Museum Delft and are listed at the musuem website.
www.collectie.legermus...08237.html

Except for the ones listed below

- L.Delsing

Centurion mk.5 w/20pdr r/n KX-10-85, found a number which was ''hull 157/150). This tank is a former Oirschot monument.
Leopard 1V s/n 8559 r/n KU-90-46 (r/n painted over)
Leopard 1V s/n 8767 r/n KU-91-65 (former A-coy, 49th tankbattalion, tact nr. ''20'' (parknummer))
M668 Crane vehicle r/n KN-44-27
MLRS US Army, not a former NLD vehicle
YPR-765PRCO r/n KY-63-08 s/n NL1572DAF (painted in a white UNPROFOR c/s. Vehicle was used to train soldiers which went to Bosnia and is not actually used in Bosnia)


Especialy the MLRS is interresting, because there where no surviving MLRS known in NLD (no matter where they came from)

The R/N of the M577 can be confirmed to be KZ-76-02.
Last know storage location was at Maaldrift depot, 330 Material Maint.Plt
www.military-vehicle-p...er1088.asp

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:03 pm
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Trevor,

I will send you a bunch of photo's of the FT17, the Crusader gun tractor

and%20the%20Valentine%20Bridge

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:10 pm
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Unique ID 1726: Overloon T-34-85M

%20%20-%20L.Delsing
%20%20
For%20this%20one%20I%20have%20s/n%2047229%20which%20was%20on%20the%20''normal''%20place%20on%20the%20glacis%20plate.%20The%20meaning%20of%20the%20painted%20number%20I%20don't%20know. Regards, Lesley
Thanks%20for%20the%20serial%20number%20-%20I've%20updated%20the%20entry.%20Also,%20with%20the%20help%20of%20Word's%20Cyrillic%20character%20set%20and%20the%20google%20translate%20website%20I%20worked%20out%20that%20the%20writing%20simply%20means%20\"Fuel\".
%20%20-%20L.Delsing %20%20
Had%20an%20unexpected%20visit%20in%20the%20storage%20hangar%20of%20the%20Army%20museum%20at%20the%20former%20Soesterberg%20air%20base.No%20public%20acces%20since%20part%20of%20the%20former%20air%20base%20is%20still%20active%20military. The%20following%20was%20noted; AMX-13Au%20F3%20r/n%20KN-70-14 ...
Noted,%20for%20when%20I%20get%20to%20write%20up%20Soesterberg. On%20to%20the%20last%20few%20vehicles%20at%20Overloon: Unique%20ID%20143:%20Overloon%20Crusader%20Gun%20Tractor Unique%20ID%20211:%20Overloon%20Renault%20FT


- Michel_Krauss
Trevor,

I will send you a bunch of photo's of the FT17, the Crusader gun tractor and the Valentine Bridge


Thank you!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:39 pm
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Now with Michel's photos:


Unique ID 25: Overloon Valentine Bridgelayer




Michel - two of those photos (at the bottom of the page) didn't have dates in them - do you have a date for them?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:35 am
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Trevor,

the last 2 are dated 2006-04-24

For some reason most of the photo's of that day don't have a date stamp, however there are some that have a date Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:12 am
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- Michel_Krauss
the last 2 are dated 2006-04-24

For some reason most of the photo's of that day don't have a date stamp, however there are some that have a date :wink:


Thanks, updated. I've added the pictures for the other two vehicles as well - the broad range of dates for the Renault FT give it a particularly nice 'time machine' view:


Unique ID 143: Overloon Crusader Gun Tractor

Unique%20ID%20211:%20Overloon%20Renault%20FT


I wonder why I didn't see these vehicles when I visited - were they not on display, or did I just miss them (I didn't manage to visit every part of the museum)?
Also, Michel, your Netherlands Register lists an M4A1 as a monument in the museum park - can you tell me more and provide photos?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:40 am
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This may be the FT17 in Dutch service.
www.volkskrant.nl/vk/n...erne.dhtml www.twenot-forums.nl/v...mp;t=22535
As found by the British? Same forum as above)

Several of it on trials, August 1927 on this forum.
forum.fok.nl/topic/1633563/1/999
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