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Any armor at Grafenwohr
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:27 pm
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Hi all

I will be at Grafenwohr training area within two weeks. Any known (or unknown Wink ) armor there?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:10 pm
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We've discussed it on this forum a couple of times, for example:

www.com-central.net/in...mp;p=86205

www.com-central.net/in...mp;t=14181

I think I remember someone posting some photos of tanks on display there, but I can't find them now. I haven't yet written up the tanks there, though the location's in the database ('34') because of tanks previously there that I have written up. Don't forget, too, it's very close to Vilseck ('35'):

Preserved Tanks in Germany

There's hartziel too - as well as wrecks there appears to be a semi-formal display with an M26, M24 and other vehicles:

www.hartziel.de/grafen.../index.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:17 pm
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Just back from Grafenwohr, here's what I did find there:

M60
SN 79
RN RN JJ032A
M3%20Half%20Track%20looking%20like%20a%20M16 M3A1%20Scout%20car
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:29 pm
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For the Sherman fans
M4A1E4(76)W
M7B2%20Priest SN%204602 This%20one%20is%20a%20French%20rebuild%20(ABS)%20and%20used%20by%20the%20German%20Army M7B1 M32A1B1
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:35 pm
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M24
SN 648
Also a French rebuild (has a rebuildplate from Gien on it)
A%20second%20M24 M44 SN%20315 M59
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:44 pm
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The complete set can be found here:
Grafenwohr set

No sign of the M26 Pershing, but there was an empty pad with a sign for a M41 Walker Bulldog

Security was high, so there was no chance to access Vilseck. However I could see a M113A1 as gateguard at the north gate (but no pictures).

The ranges where in use, so no luck there either.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:55 pm
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- Tichenor

M3 Half Track looking like a M16



Slight typo there I am sure as its an M13 modified post-war with a four-gun arrangement.

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Nice work!

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Slight typo there I am sure as its an M13 modified post-war with a four-gun arrangement.

Didn't the M13 have a two gun system? Those halftracks are even harder to recognize than the Shermans. Anyway I'm counting on the allknowing collective knowledge of the group to correct my mistakes.

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Do you have a larger image Michel? There is something not quite right about the gun arrangement.....

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:47 am
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Jim

All the pictures can be found at
community.webshots.com...oL?start=0

In my opinion those guns are replica's (bad ones)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:28 am
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Thanks for sharing the pictures!

Actually, the Sherman pictured below is an M4A1E9.
The E4 is a Sherman with 75-mm mantlet and turret retrofitted with a 76-mm gun - see web.inter.nl.net/users...etro76.htm

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:33 pm
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Hi Hanno

I can't believe I made that mistake again (probably the 10th time )
Indeed it is a M4A1E9 with the spaced out suspention (I promise I will never make that mistake again)

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Jim

All the pictures can be found at
community.webshots.com...oL?start=0

In my opinion those guns are replica's (bad ones)

Michel


Having examined your larger image I am almost sure that is an M13 with an additional pair of 'guns' added to make it look M16ish..

The gun arrangement is all wrong for a post-war-four-gun modified version.

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