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Transcribing 1945 Ordnance Museum Inventory - Help Needed
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:33 am
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Add to the list a Tiger hull. Listed as FMCV50, which is an empty folder in the museum's inactive files I previously went through.
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Oh yeah, and not 1 but 2 BergePanthers...


Neil

I wonder if that 2nd one was the mysterious Ft Knox 'Bergpanther' that arrived here in Dec 46 along with all the other 'core' vehicles.

Guess I need to follow up on some possible leads out on the ranges....

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Yeah, I'm curious about the second King Tiger...

To whatever extent Patton Museum's history of the King Tiger is based on the Ordnance Museum's info, including chassis number, where & when it was captured - it may not be correct.

I can only wonder if the museum's first King Tiger was destroyed in testing...

Neil


On this point, another page - which does not have on-hand quantities, just the item name and catalog number - lists FMCV93A (FMCV93 was the Patton Museum's King Tiger):

"Parts, for Tiger, Model 'B' Tank (consisting of assembly, bogie wheel; crankarm suspension; rear idler; sprocket drive)"

I can only wonder if FMCV93A is what was "left" of the "other" of the two FMCV93 King Tigers, after testing...

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:26 pm
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Next mystery:

FMCV188 "Turret, tank, multiple mount, A/A gun (experimental) 1042/2"
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Did the Patton Museum's Type 95 Ha-Go come from APG?

FMCV46, the museum's example, lists 3 On-Hand.

I also found another one listed under FMCV73.

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Another tidbit, it appears the Ordnance Museum's R-35 was captured from Italian forces.

It is listed as "Tank, Light Renault R-35 (French)" with the Nationality column marked "Ita" with other Italian vehicles.

Here's my photos of it
smg.photobucket.com/al...odel%20ZM/

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:11 pm
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Next mystery:

FMCV188 "Turret, tank, multiple mount, A/A gun (experimental) 1042/2"


How about the turret for a Panther Coelian or a Kugelblitz?
I think the latter is the most likely, as the Coelian didn't appear to be more than a wooden mock-up.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:31 pm
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Another tidbit, it appears the Ordnance Museum's R-35 was captured from Italian forces.


The Italian Army used captured R-35 is in Sicily. Among other places they were used in and around Gela. There was a pretty famous episode of a valiant attack by italian R-35s. There are quite a few good pictures of them usually labeled as coming from NARA.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:05 pm
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Did the Patton Museum's Type 95 Ha-Go come from APG?

FMCV46, the museum's example, lists 3 On-Hand.

I also found another one listed under FMCV73.

Neil


I'm not sure where it came from. I believe it is one of the older core vehicles which would indicate it did.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:53 pm
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Did the Patton Museum's Type 95 Ha-Go come from APG?

FMCV46, the museum's example, lists 3 On-Hand.

I also found another one listed under FMCV73.

Neil


I'm not sure where it came from. I believe it is one of the older core vehicles which would indicate it did.

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Don


It was at the old museum on Old Ironsides in the mid to late 60s with the remnants of its, I presume, original paint.

www.armorfortheages.com/Type97

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