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Seek & Strike (The Big Picture)
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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Interesting video about US Armor.
www.youtube.com/watch?...ature=plcp

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Well, that was just spooky. The M48's I trained on in AIT were just like those and have the same markings, apart from the vehicle/unit numbers (but the style is the same). Took commo in that same room conducted exactly like that and did time on those same Sheridan turret trainers. Notice that the driver simulators (that we didn't have) are M60 T-Bar models, but the M48's, of course, had that silly steering wheel. Wonder what year these clips were made?

Thanks for posting, Mark. Real trip down memory lane there. Only thing missing is the M37 machine gun training (but picture a room just like the commo class, top floor of a WWII "temporary" barrack).

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Mark,
Great video, thanks for sharing. The "Big Picture" series is interesting to check out and available on You Tube. Rick
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Potts Motor Park, from video: (exactly as I remember it. Dontos can recall my reaction when we passed it in '06
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They look like M48A2C's Smile

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They look like M48A2C's Smile


They are, as it's been recently demonstrated. I had completely forgotten about them being gassers, though they did have the coincidence rangefinder so transition to M60's was a snap. In those days, there were no separate MOS's for vehicles, just "armor crewman", you were expected to be able to operate anything, and in any position. 11D's did get M114 training, and Sheridans when they came on line.

The first time I ever even stepped aboard an M113 was when i took command of an ACAV in VN. Rolling Eyes
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The tanks in the first picture (Potts Motor Park) of Doug's post look like M60s. The rest, like Mark said, are M48A2Cs.

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First photo the tank closest appears to have a tension wheel, but it is blurred a bit. Rick
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The tanks in the first picture (Potts Motor Park) of Doug's post look like M60s. The rest, like Mark said, are M48A2Cs.


You're right, they have 105's in the three frames shot in Potts. The driver simulators are also M60's, but the other shots of the driving course are M48's. Likely this film consists of clips taken at slightly different times,or at a time when both vehicles were in service in the training brigrade.
The M60 was very much in service when I trained, but not what my tng. unit used...likely demand was still high in the front line units in Germany, Korea and CONUS, so they were using up the M48's. Also, fully half of my AIT class went to Vietnam (almost half to Germany, the others elsewhere), so time spent on the type was not wasted.
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