±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: JerryH
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6595

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 152
Total: 152
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Photo Gallery
03: Home
04: Home
05: Home
06: Home
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Photo Gallery
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Photo Gallery
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Home
18: Home
19: Photo Gallery
20: Community Forums
21: Photo Gallery
22: Home
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Photo Gallery
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Home
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Community Forums
36: Home
37: Photo Gallery
38: Community Forums
39: Home
40: Photo Gallery
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Photo Gallery
44: Home
45: Home
46: Photo Gallery
47: Home
48: Home
49: Photo Gallery
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: Photo Gallery
53: Photo Gallery
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Photo Gallery
58: Community Forums
59: Home
60: Home
61: Home
62: Photo Gallery
63: Home
64: Home
65: Community Forums
66: Home
67: Photo Gallery
68: Community Forums
69: Home
70: News
71: Community Forums
72: Home
73: Community Forums
74: Home
75: Downloads
76: Community Forums
77: Home
78: Home
79: Community Forums
80: Photo Gallery
81: Home
82: Home
83: Com-Central Videos
84: Community Forums
85: Home
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Home
90: Community Forums
91: Photo Gallery
92: Home
93: Home
94: Home
95: Downloads
96: Photo Gallery
97: Community Forums
98: Home
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Home
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Community Forums
105: Community Forums
106: Home
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Home
110: Home
111: Home
112: Community Forums
113: Home
114: Home
115: Downloads
116: Home
117: Community Forums
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Downloads
121: Home
122: Community Forums
123: Home
124: Home
125: Home
126: Photo Gallery
127: Home
128: Photo Gallery
129: Community Forums
130: Photo Gallery
131: Photo Gallery
132: Home
133: Home
134: Home
135: Photo Gallery
136: Community Forums
137: Home
138: Home
139: Home
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Photo Gallery
143: Photo Gallery
144: Community Forums
145: Home
146: Photo Gallery
147: Photo Gallery
148: Community Forums
149: Home
150: Home
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Vehicle to add to the registry
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 146

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:25 pm
Post subject: Vehicle to add to the registry

M-47 sn 8687, located in Muskegon MI. Awaiting disposition from US government. Looks like it was a repower test bed. We were hoping to get this tank for our museum, but it does not look like that will happen. I hope it goes to a good home.

Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Walter_Sobchak
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 20, 2013
Posts: 113

PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

Is that at the Getty St. Plant? The thing next to it looks like the light forces vehicle prototype Teledyne Continental made back in the 80's/90's. I believe they have removed the vehicles from the factory grounds. How old is this photo?
Back to top
View user's profile
Costas_TT
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 386

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:14 am
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

To the right of the M47, the Expeditionary Light Tank is partially visible.

_________________
1/72 and 1/76 scale fanatic.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Walter_Sobchak
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 20, 2013
Posts: 113

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:18 am
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

I was in the plant this summer, I'm pretty sure all these vehicles are gone. The plant has changed ownership twice since the days of the the fast attack vehicle and the expeditionary tank. Quite a bit of interesting stuff has been removed from the plant. I remember years ago they had the teledyne HMMWV prototype with a snow plow mounted on it for clearing the parking lot in the winter.
Back to top
View user's profile
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 146

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

This pic was taken last year, the tank is still there, but not for long.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Rick_Eshleman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 25, 2011
Posts: 847
Location: Lewes, Delaware, USA
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:01 am
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

Chris,
What are the requirements to get a monument tank? These two are rare, and should be preserved! Rick
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address Photo Gallery
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 146

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:40 pm
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

If I knew, it would be in front of our museum, I assume some form of sorcery is needed. As it is, I filled out 100000000 forms and spent untold hours gathering data, with no result.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Walter_Sobchak
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 20, 2013
Posts: 113

PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

- ChrisC
This pic was taken last year, the tank is still there, but not for long.


It's still there as of today. I was in Muskegon so I drove past the Getty St. plant. I was able to get a picture from the side of the road but I could not get very close as there is a security fence. For some reason, the turret has been traversed a bit compared to the picture that you posted.

Back to top
View user's profile
ChrisC
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 146

PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

I wonder what the future holds for the Expeditionary Light Tank hull. The M-47 belongs to the US Army and is wrapped in politics, but the ELT should be Teledyne/L3 owned. Not sure if it would make an interesting monument though...
Do you have any contacts inside? We would love to have more on the Getty St plant in our museum. Lots of cool stuff came from there.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Walter_Sobchak
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 20, 2013
Posts: 113

PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

My dad used to work there. I visited him yesterday. He said that as far as he could remember, that M47 came from Italy and that the papers concerning its ownership have been lost, leading to confusion as to who it belongs to. But, he could be wrong, that project was not part of his job. There is also a very weird Centurion hull sitting out by that M-47. I think it may be a version of a Centurion hull that they had put the low profile gun of the expeditionary vehicle on, but I am not sure of it. It looked like this in its original form. The hull sitting out there now has no turret at all, but it appears to have the boxy side skirts of the version in the picture.
Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 22, 2006
Posts: 4631
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

- Walter_Sobchak
My dad used to work there. I visited him yesterday. He said that as far as he could remember, that M47 came from Italy and that the papers concerning its ownership have been lost, leading to confusion as to who it belongs to.


Those turret side "drip rails" typically scream "Italian service" and are a fairly reliable identifying feature (designed primarily to keep rainwater from draining into the engine covers and on the driver). There is often a plate, on the hull rear IIRC, noting refit by an Italian company. I'm sure someone here has an image of one of those plates. Lots of M-47's on display in the U.S. saw service with the Italian armed forces at some point in their lives.

You can see some typical examples (including the plate noted above) here at the excellent "Ferreamole" website:

www.ferreamole.it/imag..._01pic.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 4641
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

- Doug_Kibbey

Those turret side "drip rails" typically scream "Italian service" and are a fairly reliable identifying feature (designed primarily to keep rainwater from draining into the engine covers and on the driver). There is often a plate, on the hull rear IIRC, noting refit by an Italian company. I'm sure someone here has an image of one of those plates. Lots of M-47's on display in the U.S. saw service with the Italian armed forces at some point in their lives.


Be careful with those "drip rails", I've seen them on German M47s and I am pretty positive they can be found on Belgian tanks too.
The plate on the rear hull instead is an unique feature, since it reports the company's name.

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Walter_Sobchak
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 20, 2013
Posts: 113

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:14 am
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

So it may not be Government property after all?


Last edited by Walter_Sobchak on Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:42 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Walter_Sobchak
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 20, 2013
Posts: 113

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:26 am
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

Here is a picture of the other vehicles at the Getty St. plant. The one on the left is a modified Centurion hull. I believe that this Centurion hull may have been the "low profile turret" prototype. The vehicle on the right is an M-60 AVLB in really rough shape.

Back to top
View user's profile
Walter_Sobchak
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 20, 2013
Posts: 113

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:35 am
Post subject: Re: Vehicle to add to the registry

Here is a closer picture of the rear of the M47. The picture is grainy because I have a crappy camera and had to use the "digital zoom" to get the shot from beyond the security fence. There is a little square visible on the back of the hull, perhaps that is where the Italian plate would go? Obviously, this tank has had substantial alterations to the engine bay. Visible are the two exhaust ports for the diesel engine.

Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 2
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum