±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 686
Total: 686
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Community Forums
03: Photo Gallery
04: Downloads
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Home
09: Photo Gallery
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Photo Gallery
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: CPGlang
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: CPGlang
26: Home
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Community Forums
40: Home
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: CPGlang
44: Photo Gallery
45: Home
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Downloads
50: Statistics
51: Community Forums
52: Home
53: Photo Gallery
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Photo Gallery
59: Home
60: Home
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Home
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Photo Gallery
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: CPGlang
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Home
78: Community Forums
79: Home
80: Community Forums
81: Home
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Member Screenshots
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Downloads
88: Community Forums
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Home
95: Home
96: Community Forums
97: Home
98: Photo Gallery
99: Home
100: Photo Gallery
101: Home
102: Photo Gallery
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Photo Gallery
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Home
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Statistics
112: Community Forums
113: Home
114: Community Forums
115: Community Forums
116: Community Forums
117: Photo Gallery
118: CPGlang
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Downloads
123: Home
124: Home
125: Community Forums
126: Photo Gallery
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Photo Gallery
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Photo Gallery
138: Home
139: Community Forums
140: News
141: Photo Gallery
142: Home
143: Community Forums
144: Member Screenshots
145: Home
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Your Account
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: CPGlang
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Downloads
157: Home
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Photo Gallery
161: Photo Gallery
162: CPGlang
163: Community Forums
164: Home
165: Community Forums
166: Community Forums
167: Community Forums
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Home
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Home
174: Community Forums
175: Community Forums
176: Photo Gallery
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Home
182: Community Forums
183: Statistics
184: Photo Gallery
185: Photo Gallery
186: Community Forums
187: Your Account
188: Photo Gallery
189: Photo Gallery
190: Community Forums
191: Member Screenshots
192: Photo Gallery
193: Photo Gallery
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Home
197: Downloads
198: Home
199: Home
200: Photo Gallery
201: CPGlang
202: Community Forums
203: Statistics
204: Community Forums
205: Home
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Home
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Your Account
214: CPGlang
215: Member Screenshots
216: Community Forums
217: Photo Gallery
218: Downloads
219: Community Forums
220: Downloads
221: Community Forums
222: Your Account
223: Downloads
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: CPGlang
228: Home
229: Home
230: Community Forums
231: Downloads
232: Community Forums
233: Photo Gallery
234: Community Forums
235: Member Screenshots
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Home
239: Community Forums
240: Photo Gallery
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Home
250: Community Forums
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Home
254: Photo Gallery
255: Community Forums
256: Downloads
257: Community Forums
258: Downloads
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Home
262: Home
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Community Forums
266: Home
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Photo Gallery
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Photo Gallery
278: Community Forums
279: Member Screenshots
280: Photo Gallery
281: Community Forums
282: Community Forums
283: Community Forums
284: Photo Gallery
285: News Archive
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: CPGlang
289: Photo Gallery
290: Community Forums
291: Photo Gallery
292: Home
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: News Archive
296: Home
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Photo Gallery
302: Photo Gallery
303: Home
304: Home
305: Home
306: Photo Gallery
307: Community Forums
308: Photo Gallery
309: Community Forums
310: Home
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Home
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Home
319: Community Forums
320: Home
321: Photo Gallery
322: CPGlang
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Home
326: Community Forums
327: Photo Gallery
328: Photo Gallery
329: Photo Gallery
330: Community Forums
331: Community Forums
332: Community Forums
333: Photo Gallery
334: Home
335: Community Forums
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Photo Gallery
339: Member Screenshots
340: Community Forums
341: Home
342: Community Forums
343: Community Forums
344: Home
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Downloads
350: Community Forums
351: Community Forums
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Home
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Community Forums
359: Community Forums
360: Statistics
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Home
366: Home
367: Community Forums
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Home
371: Community Forums
372: Photo Gallery
373: Home
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Community Forums
379: Community Forums
380: Home
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Home
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: Photo Gallery
387: Home
388: Photo Gallery
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Community Forums
392: Photo Gallery
393: Community Forums
394: Home
395: Community Forums
396: Photo Gallery
397: Community Forums
398: News Archive
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Photo Gallery
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Downloads
405: Photo Gallery
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: Home
412: Photo Gallery
413: Community Forums
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Home
419: Community Forums
420: Photo Gallery
421: CPGlang
422: Downloads
423: Downloads
424: Community Forums
425: Photo Gallery
426: Photo Gallery
427: CPGlang
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Photo Gallery
431: CPGlang
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Home
435: Community Forums
436: Photo Gallery
437: Community Forums
438: Photo Gallery
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Home
443: Photo Gallery
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Home
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Photo Gallery
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: News
453: Community Forums
454: Your Account
455: Community Forums
456: Home
457: Member Screenshots
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Home
461: Community Forums
462: Photo Gallery
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Photo Gallery
466: Community Forums
467: Home
468: Home
469: Community Forums
470: Home
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Your Account
475: Community Forums
476: Home
477: Home
478: Community Forums
479: Home
480: Community Forums
481: Home
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Member Screenshots
486: Downloads
487: Community Forums
488: Member Screenshots
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Photo Gallery
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Home
497: Your Account
498: Community Forums
499: Home
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Member Screenshots
505: Home
506: Home
507: Community Forums
508: Home
509: Community Forums
510: Community Forums
511: News
512: Home
513: Community Forums
514: Home
515: Photo Gallery
516: Community Forums
517: Photo Gallery
518: Photo Gallery
519: Community Forums
520: Photo Gallery
521: Community Forums
522: Community Forums
523: Community Forums
524: News
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Home
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Downloads
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Home
535: Community Forums
536: Home
537: Downloads
538: Photo Gallery
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Photo Gallery
542: CPGlang
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Your Account
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Home
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Home
565: Photo Gallery
566: Your Account
567: Community Forums
568: Photo Gallery
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Downloads
572: Downloads
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Home
576: Community Forums
577: Member Screenshots
578: Community Forums
579: Photo Gallery
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Home
583: Home
584: Home
585: Community Forums
586: Home
587: Your Account
588: Community Forums
589: Community Forums
590: Community Forums
591: Your Account
592: Your Account
593: Home
594: Community Forums
595: Photo Gallery
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Community Forums
600: Community Forums
601: Community Forums
602: Photo Gallery
603: Community Forums
604: CPGlang
605: Downloads
606: Your Account
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Home
614: Photo Gallery
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Community Forums
618: Community Forums
619: Photo Gallery
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Photo Gallery
623: Community Forums
624: Home
625: Community Forums
626: Photo Gallery
627: Home
628: Community Forums
629: Home
630: Home
631: Photo Gallery
632: Community Forums
633: Community Forums
634: Photo Gallery
635: Photo Gallery
636: Community Forums
637: Photo Gallery
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Community Forums
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Photo Gallery
644: Home
645: Photo Gallery
646: Community Forums
647: Community Forums
648: Community Forums
649: Community Forums
650: Photo Gallery
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Photo Gallery
654: Community Forums
655: Photo Gallery
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Photo Gallery
659: Community Forums
660: Downloads
661: Home
662: Community Forums
663: Community Forums
664: Photo Gallery
665: Community Forums
666: Community Forums
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Home
670: Community Forums
671: Community Forums
672: Community Forums
673: Photo Gallery
674: Community Forums
675: News
676: Community Forums
677: Statistics
678: Community Forums
679: Community Forums
680: Home
681: Home
682: Community Forums
683: Community Forums
684: Community Forums
685: Community Forums
686: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
McClain Museum/HMAM - Anderson, IN - M551 AVLB + Gallery
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
vagabond
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Dec 05, 2009
Posts: 1388
Location: Constantly moving across US
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:24 pm
Post subject: McClain Museum/HMAM - Anderson, IN - M551 AVLB + Gallery

Hi All,

We’ve added gallery of photos of the Historical Military Armor Museum (formerly known as the McClain Military Museum) in Anderson, IN. The museum has a very interesting collection of vehicles and artifacts including an AFV Mystical Unicorn - the M551 AVLB (star of ‘Die Hard 2’) as well as an M60A2 Dozer, a 1918 Buckeye Trundaar Tractor and some other cool stuff. It is a very challenging shoot as the variety of light sources leads to many weird color casts and a tripod is a must!

Regarding AFV Registry entries for the museum, I asked about the Stuart tanks and M1917 and were told that they were long gone down to FL. I understood that it had something to do with the Knight collection. I did get some SN/RN info and the captions in the gallery reflect the information.

www.vgbimages.com/AFV-...um/n-RdM8d







Back to top
View user's profile
recon4ww2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 117
Location: western Ohio
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:16 am
Post subject: Re: McClain Museum/HMAM - Anderson, IN - M551 AVLB + Gallery

When were you last there? I thought most if not all of the tanks went to Florida.

Mike Haines
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:58 am
Post subject: Re: McClain Museum/HMAM - Anderson, IN - M551 AVLB + Gallery

Is the Unicorn real? (by which I mean, an original functioning unit). I ask because I had some screen captures (previously posted here) from the film and the "bridge" was quite clearly inverted as deployed and shown in the movie (of course, could just be a prop and the technical theater guys didn't grasp the mechanics of AVLB's). Also, the shot of it going down the street didn't look as "complete" as this one does (also possibly the magic of Hollywood).

We had AVLB with 2/11 ACR in VN, but they were M48 based, though we operated Sheridans and ACAV's. I've never seen an M551 AVLB "real world".
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
vagabond
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Dec 05, 2009
Posts: 1388
Location: Constantly moving across US
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:05 pm
Post subject: Re: McClain Museum/HMAM - Anderson, IN - M551 AVLB + Gallery

Mike - we were there on 6/5/13. I asked about the other AFVs listed in the register and was told that they were taken down to FL some time ago. For sure the Stuarts and the gent I spoke with said they never had an M1917.

Doug - excellent question, and one I hadn't considered. I assumed that it was a real vehicle. It sure looked like the real deal. If it isn't - then who did all the work to create it? I don't think the producers of DH2 would go to the lengths necessary to mock it up - but I can't claim to understand producers. Smile I didn't study the vehicle closely as we were doing our usual run and gun not-enough-time shoot, but the hydraulic lines (or whatever) and everything that I've seen on M48 and M60 AVLBs appeared to be present and looked functional.

I sent an email to the contact email I was given by John Krieg at the museum. I'll let you know if I hear back from him.

Just went and reread the original thread:
www.com-central.net/in...t=die+hard

I gathered from that thread that there was one prototype M551 AVLB built and I remember John K referring to the tank as a prototype.
Back to top
View user's profile
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 1416

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:54 pm
Post subject: Re: McClain Museum/HMAM - Anderson, IN - M551 AVLB + Gallery

What about this M1917?? Notice hooks aft of turret It was at Anderson, had a fake gun or something, not much of a pic....but its on the net. I've been up there a few times very dark inside.

Back to top
View user's profile
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:19 pm
Post subject: Re: McClain Museum/HMAM - Anderson, IN - M551 AVLB + Gallery

- vagabond


Doug - excellent question, and one I hadn't considered. I assumed that it was a real vehicle. It sure looked like the real deal. If it isn't - then who did all the work to create it? I don't think the producers of DH2 would go to the lengths necessary to mock it up - but I can't claim to understand producers. Smile I didn't study the vehicle closely as we were doing our usual run and gun not-enough-time shoot, but the hydraulic lines (or whatever) and everything that I've seen on M48 and M60 AVLBs appeared to be present and looked functional.

I sent an email to the contact email I was given by John Krieg at the museum. I'll let you know if I hear back from him.

Just went and reread the original thread:
www.com-central.net/in...t=die+hard

I gathered from that thread that there was one prototype M551 AVLB built and I remember John K referring to the tank as a prototype.


As Jim pointed out in the old thread, a real one was certainly built, though I don't believe it (or any others that might have been built) saw actual service. Some M113 based bridge layers definitely saw limited service, but their utility had to be limited to wheeled and/or light armored vehicles. I don't believe an M113 or Sheridan could have launched a bridge that would have supported a 50+ ton vehicle more than once or twice, if that. Probably why you rarely see pictures of them in service.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
vagabond
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Dec 05, 2009
Posts: 1388
Location: Constantly moving across US
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:42 pm
Post subject: Re: McClain Museum/HMAM - Anderson, IN - M551 AVLB + Gallery

Well, so much for never having an M1917! Thanks AJ2! Laughing

Yep, the museum was very challengingly lit - even setting custom white balances and shooting on a tripod. L had to crank the ISO sky high to get decent shutter speeds on the high angle shots. The different lights all create very weird color shifts. Tough shoot for sure.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum