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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:38 pm
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Just returned from Fort Leonard Wood and seen the following tanks;

St Robert, MO
2 x M60(A3?), one in Reed park off route 66 in St Robert. This one is in desert c/s. The other is on St Robert blvd at the north side of I-44, across the walmart.

At the fort itself;
Near the main gate
bridgelayer
Two barreled Sherman

also
M1 Abrams 105mm, instructional at the Chemical school
M1 Abrams 105mm, near another gate with an A-10, APC and a small ship
2 x M41 Walker Bulldog near a parade ground
2 x M4 Sherman, near the old WW2 barracks
M4A1 Sherman
M46 Patton
M1 Engineer variant? at the museum
Patton flamethrower, at the museum
M60 engineer variant?, at the museum
and some bulldozers
In the Chemical corps museum was a M113 with a smoke generator

Also at the Chemical Defense Training Facility is a M113 for instructional purposes

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Lesley
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:52 am
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Any pics?

I'd like to see the Shermans and the Pattons especially! Smile
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Send a e-mail to the following adres; [email protected] with yahoo.com and I will send them to you

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Lesley
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:13 am
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Here's Lesley's pics from Fort Leonard Wood, posted with his permission. Unfortunately he didnt get a chance to shoot the two-barelled flamethrower Sherman.

M4A3E8 Easy Eight Sherman? - I assume this one isnt a flamethrower?

M67%20Flamethrower%20Tank M60%20Main%20Battle%20Tank%20(in%20the%20town%20of%20St%20Roberts) M1%20Grizzly%20obstacle%20breaching%20vehicle%20-%20this%20is%20G002.%20The%20Ordnance%20Museum%20has%20G001.%20Notably,%20this%20one%20appears%20to%20be%20missing%20the%20arm...%20

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:04 am
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Hi Neil! Hi Folks!

- Neil_Baumgardner
Here's Lesley's pics from Fort Leonard Wood, posted with his permission. Unfortunately he didnt get a chance to shoot the two-barelled flamethrower Sherman.

M4A3E8 Easy Eight Sherman? - I assume this one isnt a flamethrower?



Neil


Thanks Lesley and Neil for the photos.

I would say that Sheman is a standard 76mm gun vehicle. The two barrel flame thrower vehicle should look like a 105mm How vehicle with a barrel added to the gunner's side of the gun mantle.

Comment about the M60(A0). That vehicle has the elevated phone box and top loading air filter boxes. The one here at Ft. Bliss still has the phone box mounted on the fender with the side loading air boxes.

Sgt, Scouts Out! Smile

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Hi Neil! Hi Folks!

Thanks Lesley and Neil for the photos.

I would say that Sheman is a standard 76mm gun vehicle. The two barrel flame thrower vehicle should look like a 105mm How vehicle with a barrel added to the gunner's side of the gun mantle.


Well, I knew it wasnt a two-barreled Sherman Wink

But there were other flamethrowers that put the flame through the gun tube, just wanted to make sure this wasnt some funky Easy Eight flamethrower...

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Hi Neil! Hi Folks!

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I knew there were other flamethrowers that put the flame through the gun tube, just wanted to make sure this wasnt some funky Easy Eight flamethrower...
Neil


As far as I know, all the flame thrower(single barrel) Shermans used tubes that looked like the 75mm gun tanks. I am not saying it didn't happien, after all it is a Sherman.

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Neil did you get a look at the front of the M-60? I'm curious if it is one of the 'TRAINING TANK ONLY' ones like the one in Thurmont MD and at Aberdeen

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M1 Grizzly obstacle breaching vehicle - this is G002. The Ordnance Museum has G001. Notably, this one appears to be missing the arm...


Do you have an image of the other side Neil?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:29 pm
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BSmart,
Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything on the tank (serial, constructionnumber). There was nothing on the frontal hull about ''training tank''.

Jim,
I'am afraid I have to dissapoint you. I didn't take a photo of the other side.

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Lesley
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Lesley, did you see a T-54 around the museum/base when you were there? Was the M4A3E8 Sherman near the WWII barracks as you mentioned above, or elsewhere. If so, was the other one also an Easy Eight?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:17 pm
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Hello Neil,
Yes, the T-54 was a Czech built example. Unfortunately it was not possible to read the c/n, but the last three letters indicated it was Czech built. It was located in front of the Burger king next to the class 6 shop.

Both Shermans were between the WW2 barracks and the ''new'' museum building.

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BSmart,
Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything on the tank (serial, constructionnumber). There was nothing on the frontal hull about ''training tank''.

Jim,
I'am afraid I have to dissapoint you. I didn't take a photo of the other side.

Regards,
Lesley


Well if it was one of the 'Training Tanks' you couldn't have missed it Smile

It is in welding bead about 4 " high across the hull in front of the driver

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