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War & Peace Show 2006
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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jch_in_uk
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:12 am
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Some pictures of the KM War & Peace Show 2006, all taken Friday 21st July 2006, which looks to be have been brighter than today promises.

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PS, it's not real snow!
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Hi JCH! Hi Folks!

Super set of photos. Almost as good as being there.

Interesting tracks on that IDF T55. I would guess that means it runs and the owner can drive it on the public roadways.

Sense I live in El Paso, Texas that was a surpise to see a USMC duce and half with 'El Paso' on the door.

Love the walk around of the Chieftain AVRE vehicle with the pipes up on top.

That M3 Grant looks like it may have been saved just in the nick of time. Hope the current owner has the funds, time, and talent to restore it to something like new. I wonder how many M3 Grants have survied over the years?

THANKS for sharing!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:05 pm
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- Roy_A_Lingle
I wonder how many M3 Grants have survied over the years?



Aberdeen has a Grant - side skirts and all:

I%20think%20that%20Bovington%20has%20Montgomery's%20command%20Grant%20from%20the%20North%20Africa%20campaign%20(or%20one%20made%20up%20to%20be%20like%20that%20tank).%20%20I%20think%20I%20saw%20it%20in%20the%20background%20of%20one%20of%20Neil%20B's%20photos%20from%20his%20trip%20there.%20%20Looks%20like%20it%20was%20nicely%20restored. Fort%20Hood%204th%20ID%20museum%20in%20Texas%20has%20a%20Lee%20on%20display%20(but%20no%20top%20smaller%20turret):

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:58 am
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That M3 Grant looks like it may have been saved just in the nick of time. Hope the current owner has the funds, time, and talent to restore it to something like new.


The object was to preserve it as found on the range (it was used during WW2 to test Panzerfaust ammunition). It was only made mobile by adding running gear.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:13 am
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M3 Grant Brussels tank museum
M3%20Grant%20Bovington%20(british%20one?) M3%20Lee%20from%20Saumur%20Tank%20Museum in%20fact%20this%20one%20was%20a%20recovery%20tank,%20the%20gun%20is%20a%20fake.. The%20Montgomery's%20M3A3%20Grant.%20This%20one%20is%20exposed%20at%20the%20Imperial%20War%20Museum%20in%20London
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This one is exposed in the Kubinka Tank Museum


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Those Lee and Grant are exposed in Albury-Wodonga, in Australia (seems to be a M3 Lee with a bulldozer thing behind the second one..)
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2 more, I don't know if they are still in place, seems to be at Aberdeen..

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:54 am
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M3 Grant Brussels tank museum



I've been to that one...they have an interesting collection, but sadly none of it housed protected well from the elements like their excellent aircraft collection is. All of it is exposed, and even under those eaves, they are subject to elements when it rains/snows, etc. I wish they could get a roof over that little plaza.
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M3 Grant exposed in the Latrun Tank Museum, Latrun, Israel

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Chaffe associates (US based military vehicles rental for the film industry) also have a Lee and a Grant

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Canadian War Museum M3




So the count for now is 16... included the "fake" M31 recovery tanks like the one in Saumur
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:27 am
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Dont forget the oldest surviving M3 Lee...



SN 2, the first Chrysler built Lee, in Newark, Delaware - discovered by Bob.

BTW, I cant see about half your pictures...

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There's also this, quite possibly the only surviving M3A4 Lee...



It was last seen (June 2006) at the Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles, where it has been for a number of years, but word is its being acquired by a collector, hopefully for restoration!

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Chaffe associates (US based military vehicles rental for the film industry) also have a Lee and a Grant


These are both with the Virginia Museum of Military Vehicles, same outfit basically...

Neil
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