±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 327
Total: 327
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Photo Gallery
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Photo Gallery
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Member Screenshots
10: Community Forums
11: Home
12: Downloads
13: Photo Gallery
14: Community Forums
15: Home
16: Community Forums
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Downloads
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Photo Gallery
25: CPGlang
26: Community Forums
27: Home
28: Community Forums
29: Home
30: Photo Gallery
31: News
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: News
35: Community Forums
36: Photo Gallery
37: News Archive
38: Downloads
39: Statistics
40: CPGlang
41: Community Forums
42: Your Account
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Photo Gallery
47: Photo Gallery
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Photo Gallery
53: Community Forums
54: Home
55: Community Forums
56: Home
57: Community Forums
58: Member Screenshots
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: News Archive
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Community Forums
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Home
75: Community Forums
76: Home
77: Community Forums
78: Home
79: Community Forums
80: Downloads
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Home
85: Your Account
86: Photo Gallery
87: Community Forums
88: Home
89: Photo Gallery
90: Community Forums
91: Photo Gallery
92: Downloads
93: Member Screenshots
94: Community Forums
95: Photo Gallery
96: Photo Gallery
97: Community Forums
98: Photo Gallery
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Home
104: Photo Gallery
105: Member Screenshots
106: Community Forums
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Member Screenshots
110: Community Forums
111: Member Screenshots
112: Community Forums
113: Home
114: Member Screenshots
115: Downloads
116: Community Forums
117: Downloads
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Photo Gallery
122: Community Forums
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Member Screenshots
126: Community Forums
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Photo Gallery
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Downloads
137: Community Forums
138: Downloads
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Photo Gallery
145: Member Screenshots
146: Community Forums
147: Home
148: Photo Gallery
149: Community Forums
150: Home
151: Community Forums
152: Photo Gallery
153: Community Forums
154: Member Screenshots
155: Community Forums
156: Home
157: News Archive
158: Community Forums
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Downloads
163: Photo Gallery
164: Photo Gallery
165: Home
166: Community Forums
167: Home
168: Community Forums
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Photo Gallery
174: Home
175: Community Forums
176: Member Screenshots
177: Community Forums
178: Photo Gallery
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: CPGlang
183: Community Forums
184: Photo Gallery
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Home
188: Home
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: Member Screenshots
192: Home
193: Photo Gallery
194: Community Forums
195: Community Forums
196: Home
197: Photo Gallery
198: Photo Gallery
199: Community Forums
200: Photo Gallery
201: Home
202: News Archive
203: Photo Gallery
204: Photo Gallery
205: Photo Gallery
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Downloads
211: News Archive
212: Community Forums
213: Downloads
214: Community Forums
215: Community Forums
216: Community Forums
217: Member Screenshots
218: Photo Gallery
219: Community Forums
220: Photo Gallery
221: Member Screenshots
222: Downloads
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Your Account
230: Home
231: Home
232: Community Forums
233: Your Account
234: Home
235: Home
236: Community Forums
237: Downloads
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Community Forums
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Photo Gallery
246: Member Screenshots
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Downloads
251: Community Forums
252: Photo Gallery
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Your Account
256: Photo Gallery
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Member Screenshots
261: Photo Gallery
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Home
265: Photo Gallery
266: Community Forums
267: News
268: Community Forums
269: Photo Gallery
270: Photo Gallery
271: Member Screenshots
272: Community Forums
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Photo Gallery
277: Home
278: Community Forums
279: Community Forums
280: Photo Gallery
281: Photo Gallery
282: Statistics
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Photo Gallery
287: Statistics
288: Home
289: Photo Gallery
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Photo Gallery
294: Community Forums
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Member Screenshots
300: Photo Gallery
301: Photo Gallery
302: Home
303: Home
304: Community Forums
305: Your Account
306: Home
307: Community Forums
308: Member Screenshots
309: Member Screenshots
310: Community Forums
311: Member Screenshots
312: CPGlang
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Community Forums
317: Your Account
318: Photo Gallery
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Home
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Photo Gallery
325: Member Screenshots
326: Community Forums
327: Member Screenshots

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:56 pm
Post subject: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

Memorial Park in Garfield, NJ...according to the Tanks For the Memories geocacheing site:

img.geocaching.com/cac...5f0511.jpg

The M114 itself is pretty fuzzy, but is that the elusive 20mm mount there? If so, I wonder if anyone knows the rarity of it?

C

Update: Duh. How about another pic of that Lingle to answer my question?

img.geocaching.com/cac...187880.jpg

img.geocaching.com/cac...f1fac6.jpg

Helps a bit, eh?

C

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Doug_Kibbey
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 4678
Location: The Great Satan
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:28 pm
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

Dat's da' one!
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:13 pm
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

- C_Sherman
Memorial Park in Garfield, NJ...according to the Tanks For the Memories geocacheing site:

img.geocaching.com/cac...5f0511.jpg

The M114 itself is pretty fuzzy, but is that the elusive 20mm mount there? If so, I wonder if anyone knows the rarity of it?

C

Update: Duh. How about another pic of that Lingle to answer my question?

img.geocaching.com/cac...187880.jpg

img.geocaching.com/cac...f1fac6.jpg

Helps a bit, eh?

C


I've seen the TC hatch with the 20mm mount 'floating around here in storage... Guess we need to mount it on 'ours'....

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:16 am
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

- C_Sherman
Memorial Park in Garfield, NJ...according to the Tanks For the Memories geocacheing site:

img.geocaching.com/cac...5f0511.jpg

The M114 itself is pretty fuzzy, but is that the elusive 20mm mount there? If so, I wonder if anyone knows the rarity of it?

C

Update: Duh. How about another pic of that Lingle to answer my question?

img.geocaching.com/cac...187880.jpg

img.geocaching.com/cac...f1fac6.jpg

Helps a bit, eh?

C


Boy those look like they just drove it there, parked it, and walked away.

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:15 am
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

The nose looks awfully plain. Can anyone identify the markings / unit?

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Maple_Leaf_Eh
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 517

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:54 pm
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

There are visual similarities between this cupola and MG mount, and the crew commander's cupola on the Lynx. Our Edmonton-based photographer colleague ldshrecceboy has a walk-around of the Canadian Lynx.

Would someone with more Lingle knowledge please stand up?
Back to top
View user's profile
Hellfish6
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
Posts: 151
Location: Orlando
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:58 pm
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

I have pics from Camp Shelby with a M114 and 20mm I believe.

Or is it a .50? I've been up for 23 hours. Everything is kind of a blur to me.

Back to top
View user's profile
C_Sherman
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 590

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:04 am
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

- Hellfish6
I have pics from Camp Shelby with a M114 and 20mm I believe.

Or is it a .50? I've been up for 23 hours. Everything is kind of a blur to me.


It was a .50cal when I was there two years ago.

C

_________________
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it
will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
-Herm Albright

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:27 am
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

Hi HF6! Hi Folks!

- Hellfish6
I have pics from Camp Shelby with a M114 and 20mm I believe.

Or is it a .50? I've been up for 23 hours. Everything is kind of a blur to me.



That is the hand cranked XM-26 turret with a M2 HB TT 50 cal. machine gun.

The M114 with a 20mm will have the same turret which was the XM-27 powered turret. Differences was the drive system under the armor and the gun cradle on top with an ammo box mounted on the right side of the turret.

Also the 20mm gun barrel will reach almost to the front end of the hull.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:36 am
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

Hi Jeff! Hi Folks!

- SFC_Jeff_Button

The nose looks awfully plain. Can anyone identify the markings / unit?


That vehicle is missing a lot of items. As for the markings, doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

B-56 should mean B Troop, however the number '56' sounds more like the scout platoon of an infantry or tank battalion combat support company (CSC). If that was a cavalry troop vehicle, the number should be in 10s (1st platoon) 20s (2nd platoon), or 30s (3rd platoon).

The marking on the left side, which I am not sure what it is, looks a bit like the early 1950s type cavalry markings.

This scout is confuzed.
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.


Last edited by Roy_A_Lingle on Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:33 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:40 am
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

Hi Eh! Hi Folks!

- Maple_Leaf_Eh

There are visual similarities between this cupola and MG mount, and the crew commander's cupola on the Lynx. Our Edmonton-based photographer colleague ldshrecceboy has a walk-around of the Canadian Lynx.

Would someone with more Lingle knowledge please stand up?


From the one time I got to look at a Canadian Lynx, it had the same XM-26 turret for a M2 HB TT .50 cal as the US Army's M-114A1 Lingles.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:06 am
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

I was just looking back at the links C Sherman provided and the front glacias plate looks awfully sparce. The engine access panel appears to have been replaced with a welded sheet of metal. and there are NO fittings for lights, swim board, etc on it. It is almost like someone had butchered the front end and to display it they fabricated a new glacias panel for it and did the minimum work required.

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:48 am
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

Hi Bill! Hi Folks!

- bsmart

I was just looking back at the links C Sherman provided and the front glacias plate looks awfully sparce. The engine access panel appears to have been replaced with a welded sheet of metal. and there are NO fittings for lights, swim board, etc on it. It is almost like someone had butchered the front end and to display it they fabricated a new glacias panel for it and did the minimum work required.


I agree. It also looks to me like part of the engine grill in laying down into the engine compartment and not setting flat on top of the hull.

Something that surprises me is someone removed the lifting rings off the top front corners of the hull. But then took the trouble to screw those long bolts back into the holes.

Anyone notice that the top cover on the gun cradle is open and standing streight up?

Something that clearly helps IDs this vehicle as a M-114A1E1/A2. The M-114A1's gun cradle doesn't have a top on it.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:58 am
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

- Roy_A_Lingle
Hi Bill! Hi Folks!


Anyone notice that the top cover on the gun cradle is open and standing streight up?

Something that clearly helps IDs this vehicle as a M-114A1E1/A2. The M-114A1's gun cradle doesn't have a top on it.

Spot Report!
Sgt, Scouts Out!


I am not familiar enough with the Lingle to have noticed that. The mount did look strange but I figured it was a feature of the 20mm mount. We bow to the all knowing Master Lingleer

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:00 am
Post subject: Re: M114 with the elusive 20mm mount?

Hi Bob! Hi Folks!

- bsmart

We bow to the all knowing Master Lingleer


Careful now Bob, you are going to give me a fat head with talk like that.

Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green
Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum