±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 588
Total: 588
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: CPGlang
03: Home
04: Community Forums
05: Photo Gallery
06: Community Forums
07: Photo Gallery
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: CPGlang
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Photo Gallery
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: CPGlang
17: Community Forums
18: Photo Gallery
19: Community Forums
20: Downloads
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Home
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Member Screenshots
27: Home
28: CPGlang
29: Your Account
30: Community Forums
31: Photo Gallery
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Photo Gallery
35: Community Forums
36: Member Screenshots
37: Community Forums
38: Photo Gallery
39: Statistics
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Community Forums
45: Community Forums
46: Community Forums
47: Member Screenshots
48: Your Account
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Home
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Photo Gallery
55: Photo Gallery
56: Community Forums
57: News Archive
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Community Forums
67: Photo Gallery
68: Member Screenshots
69: Community Forums
70: Photo Gallery
71: Photo Gallery
72: Community Forums
73: Community Forums
74: Home
75: Photo Gallery
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Downloads
81: Community Forums
82: Home
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Photo Gallery
88: Photo Gallery
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Community Forums
94: Community Forums
95: Community Forums
96: Community Forums
97: Community Forums
98: Community Forums
99: Photo Gallery
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Photo Gallery
106: Downloads
107: Community Forums
108: Home
109: Community Forums
110: Community Forums
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Your Account
114: Home
115: Community Forums
116: Home
117: Photo Gallery
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Community Forums
123: Downloads
124: Photo Gallery
125: News Archive
126: Community Forums
127: Downloads
128: Community Forums
129: Downloads
130: Downloads
131: Your Account
132: Statistics
133: Community Forums
134: Community Forums
135: Downloads
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Photo Gallery
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Home
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Downloads
151: Home
152: Community Forums
153: Community Forums
154: Community Forums
155: Your Account
156: Community Forums
157: Community Forums
158: Photo Gallery
159: Community Forums
160: Community Forums
161: Community Forums
162: Home
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Photo Gallery
166: Photo Gallery
167: Community Forums
168: Home
169: Community Forums
170: Community Forums
171: Photo Gallery
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Photo Gallery
175: Photo Gallery
176: Statistics
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Downloads
181: News Archive
182: Home
183: Community Forums
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Photo Gallery
187: Photo Gallery
188: Home
189: Home
190: Community Forums
191: Your Account
192: Community Forums
193: Community Forums
194: Photo Gallery
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Downloads
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: Photo Gallery
216: Photo Gallery
217: Downloads
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Photo Gallery
224: Community Forums
225: Community Forums
226: Community Forums
227: Home
228: Community Forums
229: Your Account
230: CPGlang
231: Community Forums
232: Member Screenshots
233: Photo Gallery
234: Statistics
235: Photo Gallery
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Community Forums
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Your Account
244: Community Forums
245: Community Forums
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Community Forums
250: Home
251: Photo Gallery
252: Photo Gallery
253: Your Account
254: Community Forums
255: Downloads
256: Community Forums
257: Community Forums
258: Community Forums
259: Photo Gallery
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: Community Forums
264: Photo Gallery
265: Community Forums
266: Downloads
267: Your Account
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Photo Gallery
272: Community Forums
273: CPGlang
274: Community Forums
275: Community Forums
276: Photo Gallery
277: Community Forums
278: Community Forums
279: Home
280: Community Forums
281: Photo Gallery
282: Home
283: Photo Gallery
284: Community Forums
285: Home
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Downloads
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Photo Gallery
292: Downloads
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Your Account
296: CPGlang
297: Community Forums
298: Member Screenshots
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Photo Gallery
310: Community Forums
311: Photo Gallery
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Community Forums
316: Downloads
317: Home
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Home
325: Community Forums
326: Downloads
327: Home
328: Downloads
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Home
332: CPGlang
333: Community Forums
334: Community Forums
335: Community Forums
336: Home
337: CPGlang
338: Community Forums
339: Community Forums
340: Community Forums
341: Photo Gallery
342: Home
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: News
346: Community Forums
347: Home
348: CPGlang
349: Community Forums
350: Photo Gallery
351: Photo Gallery
352: Community Forums
353: Home
354: Photo Gallery
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Photo Gallery
358: Community Forums
359: Your Account
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Photo Gallery
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Home
368: Photo Gallery
369: Community Forums
370: Downloads
371: Community Forums
372: Photo Gallery
373: Community Forums
374: Your Account
375: Photo Gallery
376: Downloads
377: Photo Gallery
378: Photo Gallery
379: Home
380: Downloads
381: Member Screenshots
382: Photo Gallery
383: Downloads
384: Photo Gallery
385: Photo Gallery
386: News
387: Community Forums
388: Community Forums
389: Community Forums
390: Photo Gallery
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Home
394: Photo Gallery
395: Community Forums
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Home
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Home
404: Community Forums
405: Photo Gallery
406: Photo Gallery
407: Community Forums
408: Photo Gallery
409: Home
410: Home
411: Community Forums
412: Photo Gallery
413: Supporters
414: Community Forums
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Photo Gallery
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Home
423: Photo Gallery
424: Community Forums
425: Downloads
426: Photo Gallery
427: Your Account
428: Downloads
429: Photo Gallery
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Community Forums
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Photo Gallery
436: Member Screenshots
437: Community Forums
438: Community Forums
439: Community Forums
440: Photo Gallery
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Photo Gallery
444: Photo Gallery
445: Community Forums
446: Photo Gallery
447: Home
448: Community Forums
449: Home
450: Community Forums
451: Photo Gallery
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Community Forums
456: Photo Gallery
457: Community Forums
458: Community Forums
459: Community Forums
460: Community Forums
461: Photo Gallery
462: Community Forums
463: Community Forums
464: Downloads
465: Home
466: Home
467: Photo Gallery
468: Community Forums
469: Photo Gallery
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: CPGlang
475: Community Forums
476: News Archive
477: Community Forums
478: Community Forums
479: Community Forums
480: Community Forums
481: Your Account
482: Community Forums
483: Photo Gallery
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Your Account
487: News
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Photo Gallery
492: Community Forums
493: Home
494: Photo Gallery
495: Community Forums
496: Community Forums
497: Community Forums
498: Community Forums
499: Downloads
500: Community Forums
501: Community Forums
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Photo Gallery
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Community Forums
510: Home
511: Photo Gallery
512: Photo Gallery
513: Community Forums
514: Home
515: Photo Gallery
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Home
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Photo Gallery
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Member Screenshots
527: Community Forums
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: Home
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Your Account
536: Photo Gallery
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Photo Gallery
541: Community Forums
542: Home
543: Community Forums
544: Member Screenshots
545: Photo Gallery
546: Home
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: CPGlang
551: Photo Gallery
552: Community Forums
553: Community Forums
554: CPGlang
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Community Forums
560: Home
561: Community Forums
562: Statistics
563: Community Forums
564: Home
565: Community Forums
566: Community Forums
567: Community Forums
568: Home
569: Community Forums
570: Photo Gallery
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: CPGlang
574: Photo Gallery
575: Community Forums
576: Photo Gallery
577: Photo Gallery
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Photo Gallery
583: Photo Gallery
584: Downloads
585: Photo Gallery
586: Community Forums
587: Home
588: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for Iraq
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:01 pm
Post subject: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for Iraq

No, I didnt accidentally add a 0 there, 600...

These could well be Canadian LAVs (not Strykers), since the US does have FMS authority for those through the Marine Corps program.

FMS LAVs
web.archive.org/web/20...fmsfrs.htm

No indication what gen though, or they could just be Textron ASV APCs:

www.dsca.osd.mil/Press..._06-69.pdf

Defense Security Cooperation Agency
NEWS RELEASE
On the web: www.dsca.mil Media/Public Contact: (703) 601-3670
Transmittal No. 06-69
Iraq - Helicopters, Vehicles, Weapons and Support
Washington, September 19, 2006 - The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Iraq of helicopters, vehicles, weapons and support as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $500 million.
The Government of Iraq has requested a possible sale of the following weapons:
10,126 M17 9mm Glock Pistols
50,750 M16A2 Rifles
50,750 M4A1 Rifles
3,442 M24 Sniper Rifles
8,105 M249 Machine Guns
3,037 M240B Machine Guns
1,268 Generation (Gen) II Single Tube Night Vision Goggles
15 AN/PVS-17 Gen III Assault Weapon Sights
40 AN/PVS-10 Gen II Sniper Weapon Sights
20 Mi-17 Troop Transport Helicopters
600 Infantry Light Armored Vehicles Armored Personnel Carriers
2,126,250 9mm Pistol Ammunition
35,437,500 5.56mm Rifle Ammunition
633,328 7.62mm Sniper Rifle Ammunition
1,621,000 5.56mm Machine Gun Ammunition
1,214,800 M240 7.62mm Crew Served Machine Gun Ammunition
9,562 Hand Held Pyrotechnics and
8,670 Hand Held Smoke Munitions.
Also included: logistics support services/equipment for helicopters (Jet Ranger, Huey II and Mi-17) and vehicles (Standard/Non-Standard Wheeled Vehicles, Tracked Vehicles, Infantry Light Armored Vehicles Armored Personnel Carriers) and small/medium weapons and weapon systems, on-job-training, laser pointers, supply and maintenance support, measuring and hand tools for ground systems, technical support, software upgrades, spare and repair parts, support equipment, publications and documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $500 million.
This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country. This proposed sale directly supports the Iraqi government and serves the interests of the Iraqi people and the U.S., as well as offering hope for a more stable and peaceful Middle East.
The Government of Iraq has an assortment of multiple makes of antiquated vehicles with some new vehicles provided under the Multi-National Security Transition Command. The multiple makes of antiquated vehicles are difficult and costly to maintain. The modernization plan calls for purifying the fleet with more capable equipment and services to sustain equipment. The troop helicopter carries will allow the Iraqis to rapidly move troops into position. Also, the aircraft will provide the capability to medical evacuate casualties. Leadership, tactical and technical training is needed to develop a professional Iraqi Armed Forces.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not affect the basic military balance in the region.
The contractors are unknown at this time. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.
Implementation of this sale may require the assignment of up to 69 contractor representatives to execute the maintenance program for a duration up to 24 months. There will be up to 11 contractors to field and train Iraqi personnel on operating the equipment and maintenance for 8 months.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mean that the sale has been concluded.
-30-
Back to top
View user's profile
mike_Duplessis
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 236

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:17 pm
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for Iraq

Ah! I've got a thought! They probably don't mean 'LAV' per se but simply light armored vehicles. You may recall Textron Land & Marine had secured a hefty contract for turretless lengthened-body M1117 'Guardians' (does anybody actually call them by that name?). Now that the New Orleans M1117 manufacturing facility is back up & running that may be the vehicle order they're referring to.

An alternate theory is they may be quickly purchasing some off-the-shelf vehicle like Pandur to fill the void. But I'd bet money they're talking about the lengthened M1117.
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for Iraq

Mike, I agree thats a possibility, thats what I meant by Textron ASV APC...

They have already bought a number of them.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:01 am
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for Iraq

- Neil_Baumgardner
Mike, I agree thats a possibility, thats what I meant by Textron ASV APC...

They have already bought a number of them.

Neil


Theres also this vehicle..... (Photo from the AWS back in May)



Just a thought,
Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
worthhaggerton
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 25, 2006
Posts: 20

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for Iraq

Hello from Austin,
It really could be anything.

Worth
Back to top
View user's profile
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:17 am
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for Iraq

I suspect they are the armoured version of the the Hummer.

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:57 am
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for Iraq

- JimWeb
I suspect they are the armoured version of the the Hummer.

Cool


Actually, you probably have a point in that $500M certainly cant buy you 600 LAVs ($1-2M each), let alone 600 LAVs + all that other stuff.

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
MrZippy2k
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for I

As I'm sure all readers of this board are well aware, BAE and Force Protection Inc. (FPI) were awarded a contract for 378 Iraqi Light Armored Vehicles (ILAV) that are variants of the Cougar that FRI produces for the US Army and Marines. The Not to Exceed number of vehicles that can be ordered off of the contract is 1,050.

The 600 vehicles mentioned will be ILAV's, which 50% will be produced at BAE facilities (under license from FPI) and the other 50% in Ladson, SC by FPI.

All support, maintenance and spares will be provided by FPI.

If you're not familiar with these guys, I suggest you drop by www.forceprotectioninc.com.

You'll also see what they're doing with their flagship "Buffalo" and the newest entry in Mine Protected vehicles, the "Cheetah" (soon to be on a battlefield near you)

The Cheetah has an excellent shot at being named as the replacement for the HUMVEE. This is one awesome vehicle.

Zippy
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:09 pm
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for I

- MrZippy2k
As I'm sure all readers of this board are well aware, BAE and Force Protection Inc. (FPI) were awarded a contract for 378 Iraqi Light Armored Vehicles (ILAV) that are variants of the Cougar that FRI produces for the US Army and Marines. The Not to Exceed number of vehicles that can be ordered off of the contract is 1,050.

The 600 vehicles mentioned will be ILAV's, which 50% will be produced at BAE facilities (under license from FPI) and the other 50% in Ladson, SC by FPI.

All support, maintenance and spares will be provided by FPI.

If you're not familiar with these guys, I suggest you drop by www.forceprotectioninc.com.

You'll also see what they're doing with their flagship "Buffalo" and the newest entry in Mine Protected vehicles, the "Cheetah" (soon to be on a battlefield near you)

The Cheetah has an excellent shot at being named as the replacement for the HUMVEE. This is one awesome vehicle.

Zippy


Zippy, thanks for the info. I'm from the Charleston area and know Force Protection (or Technical Solutions Group as they used to be called) from before 9-11. Back then they were happy just to get an order for a dozen or so vehicles. Now they're doing runs in the hundreds!

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
MrZippy2k
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 22, 2006
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for I

Here's the Cheetah.
Back to top
View user's profile
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for I

- MrZippy2k

The 600 vehicles mentioned will be ILAV's, which 50% will be produced at BAE facilities (under license from FPI) and the other 50% in Ladson, SC by FPI.


Go back and read the first message - the Infantry/Iraq Light Armoured Vehicles are mentioned, in addition to the Light Armoured Vehicles, further down the page.

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1439
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Interesting FMS announcement - 600 Infantry "LAVs" for I

- JimWeb
- MrZippy2k

The 600 vehicles mentioned will be ILAV's, which 50% will be produced at BAE facilities (under license from FPI) and the other 50% in Ladson, SC by FPI.

Go back and read the first message - the Infantry/Iraq Light Armoured Vehicles are mentioned, in addition to the Light Armoured Vehicles, further down the page.


Oops sorry - I should have mentioned that I had read the full version of that contract/proposal rather than the summary in the first message.

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum