±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: JerryH
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6595

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 88
Total: 88
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Home
03: Home
04: Photo Gallery
05: Photo Gallery
06: Photo Gallery
07: Photo Gallery
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Home
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Community Forums
17: Home
18: Home
19: Community Forums
20: Downloads
21: Photo Gallery
22: Community Forums
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Photo Gallery
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Photo Gallery
29: Community Forums
30: Community Forums
31: News
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Photo Gallery
35: Downloads
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Photo Gallery
40: Community Forums
41: Photo Gallery
42: Photo Gallery
43: Photo Gallery
44: Community Forums
45: Photo Gallery
46: Photo Gallery
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Your Account
51: Photo Gallery
52: Community Forums
53: Home
54: Photo Gallery
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: CPGlang
58: Photo Gallery
59: Community Forums
60: Photo Gallery
61: Downloads
62: Photo Gallery
63: Photo Gallery
64: Community Forums
65: Photo Gallery
66: Photo Gallery
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Home
72: Home
73: Community Forums
74: Photo Gallery
75: Photo Gallery
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Downloads
81: Community Forums
82: Statistics
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Photo Gallery

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Can anyone translate Russian? "Snail Tank".
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
BenjaminLiottel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 06, 2006
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:47 pm
Post subject: Can anyone translate Russian? "Snail Tank".

All I know is these are plans for a presumably unbuilt Russian WWI "Big Wheel" machine. During this time many countries were experimenting with using the big-wheel vehicles, most noteably the Russians with their Tsar Tank.

All I know is the vehicle is called the "Snail Tank". The plans are scanned out of a fairly recent book, but they seem very faded. I would love to get a translation of all the text.

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to translate it!


---
Back to top
View user's profile
JimWeb
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 1434
Location: The back of beyond
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:24 am
Post subject: Re: Can anyone translate Russian? "Snail Tank".

Speaking of big ugly impractical russian monstrosities.

Has anyone got any images of the Tsar tank with the solid wheels - probably conceptual..

Cool

_________________
TTFN
Jim

If your not a member of JED then your
not serious about anything military..

***********************
www.jedsite.info
JED Military Equipment
***********************
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website ICQ Number
armyjunk2
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Sep 21, 2006
Posts: 1412

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:29 am
Post subject: Re: Can anyone translate Russian? "Snail Tank".

PLANS FOR EARLY RUSSIAN TANKS...

Back to top
View user's profile
panthertank
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:35 am
Post subject: Re: Can anyone translate Russian? "Snail Tank".

- JimWeb
Speaking of big ugly impractical russian monstrosities.

Has anyone got any images of the Tsar tank with the solid wheels - probably conceptual..

Cool

Found one in the book Russian tanks 1900-1970 by John Milson
Back to top
View user's profile
BenjaminLiottel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 06, 2006
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Can anyone translate Russian? "Snail Tank".

That picture is of the Tsar tank with wire spoke wheels.

An argument can be made that the wires spoke wheels would be extremely easy targets for artillery fire.

I believe what Jim was saying, is that there was an idea to fit the Tsar Tank with solid wheels, rather than spoked wheels. Such a wheel might hold integrity better after being hit by artillery fire.

If there was such a plan, it could never have been implemented. The Tsar tank could barely move under its own power with the spoked wheels. Give it far heavier solid wheels, and the thing probably wouldn't be able to move at all.

---Vil.
Back to top
View user's profile
palic
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 172

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:02 am
Post subject: Re: Can anyone translate Russian? "Snail Tank".

Translation of "description" is here:
A project of gigantic moving artillery battery named "Improved Tortoise", created by engineer-designer NAWROTSKOW in 1917.
Expected weight: 192 tons (holly sh..t)
Driven by front "ball shaped" wheel.
Armament: 203 mm Howitzer - 2pcs, 152 mm Gun - 2 pcs, 102 mm Gun - 4 pcs, 76,2 mm Gun - 8 pcs, Machine Gun - 10 pcs.
This was not the only concept of such huge/gigantic combat vehicle.
Back to top
View user's profile
BenjaminLiottel
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 06, 2006
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Can anyone translate Russian? "Snail Tank".

Thank you very much Palic!

There were many ideas like this in WWI.

"Oh, lets make a vehicle as big as a football field, armed with weapons fit for a battleship!"

"How are you going to move the thing?"

"With an engine! Duh!"

Inevitably, all of these Super War Vehicles ended up being dead ends. Remember, a standard British WWI tank could only move as fast as a stumbling foot soldier. How any engineer of the times actually thought they could propel an "Improved Tortoise", Tsar Tank, or even the K-Wagen, is beyond me. The only "Super Tank" ever built that was partially succesful was the French FCM-2C tanks, far smaller, but still a monstrous vehicle.

This "Improved Tortoise" is just another in a long list of incredibly bizarre impossible vehicles that people dreampt up around the time of WWI.

Again, thank you very much Palic.

---Vil.
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 6 Hours



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum