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The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:29 am
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A few more while I have some time...

Bergepanzer 38(t)

Karl%20Gerat%20Munitionsschlepper Karl%20Gerät%20041%20'Karl'%20heavy%20mortar%20cradle

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PzKpfw III

Type%202%20Ke-To Marmon-Herrington%20CTMS-1TB1 Marmon-Herrington%20MTLS-1G14 DD%20Valentine

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Some British tanks, a Canadian one & a German SPW...

Bishop

A9 Ram%20II SdKfz%20250-9

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Okay, some ones I need confirmation/help with...

Sd.Kfz. 7 8-ton Half-Track?

Sd.Kfz.%208%2012-ton%20Half-Track? Sd.Kfz.%209%2018-ton%20Half-Track? Sd.Kfz.%209%2018-ton%20(\"15-ton\")%20Half-Track%20Prime%20Mover? Sd.Kfz.%2011%203-ton%20Half-Track? Sd.Kfz.%20250/5%20Half-Track%20Artillery%20Observation%20Vehicle? Sorry%20for%20the%20softskin%20-%20I%20have%20this%20down%20as%20a%20\"PKW%202\"%20Type%2040%20Heavy%20Uniform%20Personnel%20Vehicle?

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A bunch more prime movers...

Type 98 Ro-Ke 6-ton Prime Mover?

Type%2098%20Shi-Ke%204-ton%20Prime%20Mover? Type%2098%20Half-tracked%20Prime%20Mover? Sd.Kfz.%206%205-ton%20Semi-Tracked%20Prime%20Mover? Sd.Kfz.%209/2%2018-ton%20Half-Track%20Prime%20Mover%20with%20crane? ?%20German%20prime%20mover ?%20German%20half-track? ?%20Half-Track%20Prime%20Mover%20w/%2010-ton%20Crane Another%20softskin%20-%20Daimler-Benz%20170%20Light%20Personnel%20Carrier? ?%20French%20prime%20mover Prime%20movers?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:47 pm
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Okay, not technically an AFV, but an impressive K5 Glatt 31cm Railway Gun regardless...



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All this was detroyed in 1952.... Sad

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Like I said, not necessarily all were scrapped, but most certainly were. I have a few pictures of items from the inactive files that do still exist - the T5 Phase I at Knox, the Wirbelwind at Rendsburg, and others. Its possible some of the above may also exist in some museum, or less likely behind the fence at APG...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:19 pm
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"Sorry for the softskin - I have this down as a "PKW 2" Type 40 Heavy Uniform Personnel Vehicle?"

Looks like a Horch (or other manufacturer) 4x4 Schwere Gelände Einheits Personen Kraftwagen. Not sure of the actual SdKfz designation.


"Another softskin - Daimler-Benz 170 Light Personnel Carrier?"

Looks like a Stoewer (or another manufacturer) Leichte Gelände Einheits Personen Kraftwagen

www.autogallery.org.ru/m/leepkw.htm

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:04 am
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Something from eBay

T72
T49 M19%20prototype
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Something from eBay
M19 prototype


No thats a T141 - prototype of the M42

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Sd.Kfz. 7 8-ton Half-Track?


Yes - SdKfz 7/6

Sd.Kfz. 8 12-ton Half-Track?


Yes!

Sd.Kfz. 9 18-ton Half-Track?


No its a late production SdKfz 8

Sd.Kfz. 9 18-ton ("15-ton") Half-Track Prime Mover?


Probably! Smile

Sd.Kfz. 11 3-ton Half-Track?


yes!

Sd.Kfz. 250/5 Half-Track Artillery Observation Vehicle?


Hard to say from this side...

Sorry for the softskin - I have this down as a "PKW 2" Type 40 Heavy Uniform Personnel Vehicle?


I reckon its a Horch EFM 1A (the footloops) and probably a s. gl.pkw aka Kfz 21. Hard to be sure without a look inside...

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- Neil_Baumgardner
A bunch more prime movers...

Type 98 Ro-Ke 6-ton Prime Mover?


Correctomundo...

Type 98 Shi-Ke 4-ton Prime Mover?


Yes

Type 98 Half-tracked Prime Mover?


Yes - strange no one has ever been able to find out the designation for this vehicle.

Sd.Kfz. 6 5-ton Semi-Tracked Prime Mover?


yes - DB 17 version (the front bumper)

Sd.Kfz. 9/2 18-ton Half-Track Prime Mover with crane?


No its an SdKfz 9/1

? German prime mover


Tatra TL 9

? German half-track?


SWS

? Half-Track Prime Mover w/ 10-ton Crane


SdKfz 9/2

Another softskin - Daimler-Benz 170 Light Personnel carrier?


itys a kl. Inst. Kw. aka Kfz 2/40 light repairs version.

? French prime mover


Unic TU-1 or zugkraftwagen U305(f)

Prime movers?


You owe me big time for this one... Cleeland MG1?

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Unic TU-1 or zugkraftwagen U305(f)



Hmmm... Could it also be referred to as a "Unic Kegresse P 107 Semi-Tracked Light Prime Mover"?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:08 pm
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Unic TU-1 or zugkraftwagen U305(f)



Hmmm... Could it also be referred to as a "Unic Kegresse P 107 Semi-Tracked Light Prime Mover"?

Neil


I think the P107 is taller and somewhat different looking.

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