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AFVs in France
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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Hello,

Do somebody have a list or a beginning of list of tanks preserved in France? I would try to complete and to update it. Maybe I could arrive to a list as complete as Neil's one for the tanks in the USA.. Thanks.

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Let me see if I can send you what I have tonight...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:40 pm
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Pierre, do you have a copy of Larkum's Preserved Tanks in France? It would be a very good starting point....He lists 227, i'm sure it needs to be updated, but its a starting point.....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:38 am
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Neil,

thanks for the document. There are several vehicles that I didn't knew the existence. I will update and sort this by Département (sort of State if you want), and try to complete it by asking if there are more tanks on some French forums.
I'll try to do a French/English version if possible.

Armyjunk,

I don't have this book but I will try to find it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:25 pm
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Here's the info on it:
www.armourarchive.co.u...ifcont.htm

I just found a copy via abebooks & ordered it...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:10 pm
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Pierre, maybe I could scan the book for you if you can't get a copy. Its about 60 pages so I could scan it at 30 pages. I not sure it would be readable....Let me know......
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:42 am
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Pierre, you should have the scans by now
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:47 am
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Armyjunk2, I wouldnt mind having an electronic version as well (especially since it could take a month for the hardcopy to get to me). If you could e-mail it to me, baumgar @ hotmail.com, I'd appreciate it!

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Neil, it is on the way, anyone else like a copy?? please Email me at armyjunk @ yahoo.com
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Armyjunk, I received the documents well. That's very interesting..

Neil, I think the France AFVs will take me at least a week or two to be completed, corrected etc.. Then I will send it to you for further corrections. I ask myself about doing a single French/English version or two separate English and French versions..., what do you think about?

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Armyjunk, I got them as well - thanks.

Pierre-Olivier,
Sounds good. Please go ahead with the France register - I can incorporate the info into the Europe register at a later time. I would say seperate English & French versions. I'd be happy to help with editing the English version. I look forward to it!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:49 am
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Pierre, Don't forget the French tank updates available at

www.armourarchive.co.uk/
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:54 pm
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Already got it..

But there are several more updates to do Wink the mess will be to list all the Shermans from Saumur, since some of them are regularly placed as monuments all around France, so I can't clearly know how much they have today... This week I will post some photos I took in the 90s from tanks I can't clearly identify (Stuart M5 or M5A1 for instance).

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:43 am
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Hi,

As french and military vehicles enthousiast, I can help you with some locations, surely certain known, perharps some new :

Iraki T55 Enigma : gate from the 501/503 RCC in Mourmelon
B1 bis: as above one outside, one inside
Nota there is some other stuffs in these barracks but no visibles in normal time

M4A? Sherman in Phalsbourg (57) entrance named Bourg La Reine from 2nd DB Its the original tanks.

M4A? Sherman in Arracourt (54) monument for the Arracourt ww2 tank battle

TD M10 in entrance from the Maginot Line Hackenberg fort.

TD M10 Por Epic near Illhausern (Alsace) old and new location

M4A1E8 at the Marckolsheim Casemate near Rhine river in Alsace

Sherman DD at Verville sur Mer (Normandy) old location

I have pics from all these.

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The France AFV register speed up greatly, I have now to sort out what's in the saumur museum...

Here is a photo taken by Stephen Drew in Mourmelon-le-Grand in 2006. Could someone tell me which vehicle it is? (I'm supposed to know it better than you.. Neutral French modern material doesn't interest me much)


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