±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 715
Total: 715
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Home
02: Your Account
03: Community Forums
04: Home
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Downloads
09: Photo Gallery
10: Community Forums
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Home
15: Photo Gallery
16: Home
17: Downloads
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Your Account
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Photo Gallery
26: Downloads
27: Home
28: Home
29: Photo Gallery
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Photo Gallery
34: Home
35: Community Forums
36: Member Screenshots
37: Home
38: Home
39: Tell a Friend
40: Community Forums
41: Community Forums
42: Home
43: Community Forums
44: Photo Gallery
45: Home
46: CPGlang
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: News
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Community Forums
53: Community Forums
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Photo Gallery
57: Community Forums
58: Community Forums
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Home
63: Community Forums
64: Community Forums
65: Community Forums
66: Downloads
67: Home
68: Photo Gallery
69: Community Forums
70: Photo Gallery
71: Home
72: CPGlang
73: Your Account
74: Photo Gallery
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Community Forums
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Photo Gallery
81: Community Forums
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Community Forums
85: Photo Gallery
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: Community Forums
89: Downloads
90: Downloads
91: Member Screenshots
92: Photo Gallery
93: Member Screenshots
94: Community Forums
95: Downloads
96: CPGlang
97: Community Forums
98: Photo Gallery
99: Community Forums
100: Member Screenshots
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Photo Gallery
105: Home
106: Community Forums
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Downloads
111: Community Forums
112: CPGlang
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Member Screenshots
116: Home
117: Home
118: Community Forums
119: Community Forums
120: Community Forums
121: News
122: Community Forums
123: Your Account
124: Community Forums
125: Your Account
126: Community Forums
127: Home
128: Community Forums
129: CPGlang
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Home
133: Home
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Community Forums
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Community Forums
140: Community Forums
141: Community Forums
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Photo Gallery
145: Home
146: Home
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Home
150: Community Forums
151: Member Screenshots
152: Community Forums
153: Your Account
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: CPGlang
157: Photo Gallery
158: Downloads
159: Community Forums
160: Member Screenshots
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Home
165: Photo Gallery
166: Photo Gallery
167: Community Forums
168: Photo Gallery
169: Home
170: Community Forums
171: Downloads
172: Home
173: Community Forums
174: Photo Gallery
175: Community Forums
176: Photo Gallery
177: Member Screenshots
178: Home
179: Home
180: Community Forums
181: Photo Gallery
182: Member Screenshots
183: Statistics
184: Community Forums
185: Home
186: CPGlang
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Photo Gallery
190: News
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Home
194: Photo Gallery
195: News
196: Community Forums
197: Photo Gallery
198: Home
199: Photo Gallery
200: Community Forums
201: Home
202: News
203: Community Forums
204: Home
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: News Archive
215: Home
216: Photo Gallery
217: Community Forums
218: Community Forums
219: Downloads
220: Community Forums
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Home
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Downloads
229: Community Forums
230: Community Forums
231: Home
232: Community Forums
233: CPGlang
234: Home
235: CPGlang
236: Community Forums
237: Photo Gallery
238: Member Screenshots
239: Photo Gallery
240: Photo Gallery
241: Home
242: Community Forums
243: Community Forums
244: Community Forums
245: Downloads
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Photo Gallery
249: Community Forums
250: Photo Gallery
251: Community Forums
252: Community Forums
253: Photo Gallery
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Downloads
258: Home
259: Home
260: Photo Gallery
261: Community Forums
262: Photo Gallery
263: Community Forums
264: Photo Gallery
265: Community Forums
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Home
273: Member Screenshots
274: Community Forums
275: Member Screenshots
276: Photo Gallery
277: Community Forums
278: Member Screenshots
279: Community Forums
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Photo Gallery
283: Community Forums
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Photo Gallery
287: Home
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Photo Gallery
291: Photo Gallery
292: Downloads
293: Community Forums
294: Photo Gallery
295: Community Forums
296: Community Forums
297: Statistics
298: Community Forums
299: Community Forums
300: Community Forums
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Community Forums
304: Photo Gallery
305: Member Screenshots
306: Home
307: Your Account
308: Home
309: Photo Gallery
310: Member Screenshots
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Home
316: Downloads
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Member Screenshots
320: Downloads
321: Community Forums
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Photo Gallery
326: News
327: Community Forums
328: Home
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Downloads
332: Community Forums
333: Community Forums
334: Community Forums
335: Home
336: Community Forums
337: Community Forums
338: Home
339: Community Forums
340: Your Account
341: Community Forums
342: Home
343: Home
344: News
345: Home
346: Home
347: News
348: Community Forums
349: Home
350: Home
351: Home
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Community Forums
358: Your Account
359: Downloads
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Community Forums
365: News Archive
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Photo Gallery
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Downloads
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Home
375: Community Forums
376: Community Forums
377: Member Screenshots
378: Photo Gallery
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: CPGlang
384: Downloads
385: Photo Gallery
386: Community Forums
387: Community Forums
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Photo Gallery
392: News Archive
393: Downloads
394: Community Forums
395: Home
396: Community Forums
397: Community Forums
398: Your Account
399: Photo Gallery
400: Home
401: Photo Gallery
402: Community Forums
403: Statistics
404: Photo Gallery
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Downloads
408: Statistics
409: Home
410: Community Forums
411: Community Forums
412: Your Account
413: Community Forums
414: Home
415: Community Forums
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Photo Gallery
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Home
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Community Forums
425: Downloads
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Downloads
431: Community Forums
432: Photo Gallery
433: News Archive
434: Home
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Home
438: Statistics
439: Downloads
440: Photo Gallery
441: Downloads
442: Home
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Community Forums
446: Member Screenshots
447: Community Forums
448: Community Forums
449: Photo Gallery
450: Community Forums
451: Photo Gallery
452: Your Account
453: Member Screenshots
454: Community Forums
455: Photo Gallery
456: Home
457: Photo Gallery
458: Community Forums
459: Photo Gallery
460: Photo Gallery
461: Community Forums
462: Community Forums
463: Your Account
464: Member Screenshots
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: News Archive
470: Community Forums
471: Home
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Home
475: Home
476: Photo Gallery
477: Home
478: Home
479: Photo Gallery
480: Member Screenshots
481: Your Account
482: Community Forums
483: Community Forums
484: Community Forums
485: Community Forums
486: Photo Gallery
487: Community Forums
488: CPGlang
489: Photo Gallery
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Community Forums
493: Photo Gallery
494: Community Forums
495: Community Forums
496: Home
497: Community Forums
498: Home
499: Home
500: Downloads
501: Photo Gallery
502: Community Forums
503: Community Forums
504: Your Account
505: Community Forums
506: Photo Gallery
507: Community Forums
508: Community Forums
509: Photo Gallery
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Home
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Home
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Home
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Photo Gallery
523: Member Screenshots
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Community Forums
528: News
529: Photo Gallery
530: Community Forums
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Photo Gallery
534: Community Forums
535: Photo Gallery
536: Member Screenshots
537: Downloads
538: Home
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Photo Gallery
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Home
548: CPGlang
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Home
553: Community Forums
554: Photo Gallery
555: Home
556: Member Screenshots
557: Home
558: Photo Gallery
559: Community Forums
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Community Forums
563: Photo Gallery
564: Home
565: Home
566: Community Forums
567: Member Screenshots
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Community Forums
573: Community Forums
574: Photo Gallery
575: Community Forums
576: CPGlang
577: Community Forums
578: Community Forums
579: Community Forums
580: Home
581: Community Forums
582: Photo Gallery
583: Photo Gallery
584: Community Forums
585: Photo Gallery
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Photo Gallery
590: Photo Gallery
591: Community Forums
592: CPGlang
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Community Forums
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Community Forums
599: Your Account
600: Statistics
601: Community Forums
602: Home
603: Photo Gallery
604: Community Forums
605: Photo Gallery
606: Home
607: Home
608: Photo Gallery
609: Community Forums
610: Home
611: Downloads
612: Home
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Home
616: Community Forums
617: Home
618: Photo Gallery
619: Photo Gallery
620: Downloads
621: Community Forums
622: Downloads
623: Community Forums
624: Community Forums
625: Home
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Community Forums
629: Community Forums
630: Community Forums
631: Member Screenshots
632: Community Forums
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Member Screenshots
637: Home
638: Community Forums
639: Photo Gallery
640: Search
641: Community Forums
642: Community Forums
643: Community Forums
644: Photo Gallery
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Tell a Friend
648: Community Forums
649: Community Forums
650: Community Forums
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Community Forums
654: Community Forums
655: Community Forums
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Home
660: Community Forums
661: Community Forums
662: Photo Gallery
663: Community Forums
664: Community Forums
665: News
666: Downloads
667: Photo Gallery
668: Community Forums
669: Community Forums
670: Member Screenshots
671: Community Forums
672: News
673: Photo Gallery
674: Community Forums
675: Community Forums
676: Photo Gallery
677: Community Forums
678: News
679: Community Forums
680: Home
681: Community Forums
682: Community Forums
683: Community Forums
684: Photo Gallery
685: Photo Gallery
686: Community Forums
687: Community Forums
688: Downloads
689: Community Forums
690: Community Forums
691: Home
692: CPGlang
693: Community Forums
694: Home
695: Community Forums
696: Photo Gallery
697: News Archive
698: Member Screenshots
699: Community Forums
700: Photo Gallery
701: CPGlang
702: Downloads
703: Community Forums
704: Photo Gallery
705: Community Forums
706: Home
707: Home
708: Community Forums
709: Community Forums
710: Community Forums
711: Community Forums
712: Community Forums
713: Photo Gallery
714: Your Account
715: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:09 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

Ah, I have discovered a relatively simple identification cue to tell the difference between an FSED XM1 and an LRIP or later Abrams...

If the lower, rear part of the turret has a vertical "slab" (my word) - like on this one (see also Hunnicutt's Abrams p 200) - its an FSED XM1.



LRIP & later Abrams dont have that vertical slab - see this pic & Hunnicutt's Abrams p206.



So the Abrams at the Fort Hood East Gate is an FSED XM1 - one of only 11 built. However, it appears that Operational Test III (OT-III) at Fort Hood (ie 2-5 Cav, etc) used LRIP, not FSED, tanks (see Hunnicutt's Abrams, p 202-203). Although FSED Abrams were tested at Fort Bliss during OT-II...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:08 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

So I'm to assume that this is a relatively rare M1? Any one know what became of the other eleven? And I'm still curious as to what the stampings on the side skirts stood for.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:10 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

Yes, its pretty rare. Its a "true" XM1. XM1s include the original XM1 competitor vehicle (the turret exists, not sure what happened to the hull), and the 11 Full-Scale Engineering Development (FSED) pilot vehicles (PV).

PV1 is in front of the Patton Museum at Fort Knox
PV4 has the Chrysler competitor turret on it for some reason & at least was in storage at TACOM in Warren, MI
PV11 was used for live-fire testing & may or may not still exist "behind the fence" at APG...

There's another "XM1" at TACOM.

The Fort Campbell "XM1" could be FSED PVs...

The APG "XM1" is probably an LRIP vehicle - these were sometimes called XM1s as well...

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:28 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

How do you determine which tank is 1,2,3, or so on?

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:00 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- SFC_Jeff_Button
How do you determine which tank is 1,2,3, or so on?


Jeff

Research, Research, Research! Also a little luck that someone has documented it in print!!!

Thank goodness for Hunnicutt's indepth work. It really helps provide a sound basis for most armor related, historical information and data. (I'm sure most on this DG will atest to...)

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:59 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

Yes, but... Hunnicutt's purpose was to explain the development & fielding of a particular tank or weapon system. This means that individual pilots or prototypes (pictures, RNs, SNs, etc) are occasionally mentioned... But in general, the fates or disposition of all pilots or prototypes are not given, and the location of stampings is certainly not. That being said, they're a great reference!

But in cases like these, we need to fill in the details. Unfortunately, I dont have a good way yet to determine the PV number or SN externally yet.

Don, any chance you could poke around the Patton Museum's XM1 next time you're there?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:05 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- Neil_Baumgardner
Yes, but... Hunnicutt's purpose was to explain the development & fielding of a particular tank or weapon system. This means that individual pilots or prototypes (pictures, RNs, SNs, etc) are occasionally mentioned... But in general, the fates or disposition of all pilots or prototypes are not given, and the location of stampings is certainly not. That being said, they're a great reference!

But in cases like these, we need to fill in the details. Unfortunately, I dont have a good way yet to determine the PV number or SN externally yet.

Don, any chance you could poke around the Patton Museum's XM1 next time you're there?

Neil


Cool

Did it yesterday, but a 'tad' too cold (temps in 20's) to do any real 'hunting'. No stamp tags on skirts, no obvious markings. I'll do a little more indepth snooping next time.

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:34 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

I would ask the museum directors but they cant even keep track of where their Shermans are, (seriously, I had to tell them what motor pool they were in and they still cant find a field piece). Their anxious for me to assist them but they don't want to do much for me. I think Dontos is the "key" to our research at this time. I will try and get back to the XM-1 when I get some free time and look her over again.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

Jeff,
Those stamps on that XM-1 should be ID marks for the Ballistic skirts. C/A should mean "Chobham Armor". Remember that when the M-1 was first made it was not designed with the new armor by either Chrysler or GM. It was later demonstrated to the US and was adopted for the program. From what I remember the pilot vehicles were the first to be equipped with this material. That's why the turret's appearance changed so much from the prototype. Can't bend it or shape it, had to made in slab form. The Chrysler skirts were marginal protection and served also to reduce dirt ingestion of the turbine engine

Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
Geoff_walden
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 133

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:59 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- SFC_Jeff_Button
How do you determine which tank is 1,2,3, or so on?


Some of the PVs had numbers stamped into the hull in various places. I recall that one of the tanks that was at TACOM had PV4 stamped into the hull. The Fort Knox example has no numbers at all, AFAIR, which leads to the question "how do we know it's PV1?" Unless museum records prove that, I don't really know.

Jeff, I'd be real interested to hear if you can find anything on that Hood tank that shows which PV it is - it is definitely a rare tank! I'd guess only about 5 or 6 of the original 11 still exist, and most of those were modified from their original configuration, due to testing improvements. An example of this is the "paddle wheel" track retainer on the sprocket. This was installed on all (I think) 11 PVs as a result of the initial OT-II test at Fort Bliss, when the tanks threw track a lot. The second part of OT-II was at Fort Knox, using the paddle wheels (and other improvements).

Other than that, this Hood PV looks pretty original, on the outside. It still has the ammo feed chute for the TC's 50-cal, the old-style MRS held on by a bunch of bolts, the original front skirts with circular recesses for the latches, etc.

As Neil mentioned, the tanks used for OT-III at Hood and later in initial fielding were the first 110 LRIP tanks, not the PVs. These were also technically XM-1s, since the tank had not yet been type-classified. I was involved in this fielding, and I do not recall ever seeing a PV at Hood at that time (I think I would have noticed, being kinda "into" the tank history at that time).

I will try to find my notes and photos from the early 80s. Honestly, I can't remember now if the LRIP tank S/Ns started with a letter, or just the number. They were all made at Lima, so maybe it was just a number without the L. But I do remember refering to L8 at that time - L8 was not fielded, but was used for various tests (it had an under-armor APU added to the left-rear sponson). I wonder whatever happened to L8 ... it had so many mods, I doubt if it was ever fielded to a unit ... not in that configuration, anyway (if anyone finds an early M1 with an odd box with louvers sticking at the back at the upper left rear, it's L8).

My notes from way back when also told where all the PVs were, at that time. Will try to dig that stuff out.

Geoff Walden
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:17 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- Geoff_walden
- SFC_Jeff_Button
How do you determine which tank is 1,2,3, or so on?


Some of the PVs had numbers stamped into the hull in various places. I recall that one of the tanks that was at TACOM had PV4 stamped into the hull. The Fort Knox example has no numbers at all, AFAIR, which leads to the question "how do we know it's PV1?" Unless museum records prove that, I don't really know.


Geoff, do you remember where PV4 was stamped?

As for the Knox example, we at least know its a PV since it has the vertical "slab" on the rear turret - maybe Don can chime in as to what the museum records say... And I thought I had found "something" on it that proved it was PV1...





Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
Neil_Baumgardner
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3942
Location: Arlington, VA
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- Geoff_walden

My notes from way back when also told where all the PVs were, at that time. Will try to dig that stuff out.


Geoff, if you could find that list it could be a goldmine! Next though, since the Chrysler turret got put on PV4.... What happened to the original chassis?

Neil
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:56 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

I guess a return trip to the "PV" M1 is in order for tomorrow! I'll climb up on it and all over the top of the hull and turret. Any mark I find I will photograph. I will also re-stick my arm inside and try to get a few different shots of the interior.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:08 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- SFC_Jeff_Button
I guess a return trip to the "PV" M1 is in order for tomorrow! I'll climb up on it and all over the top of the hull and turret. Any mark I find I will photograph. I will also re-stick my arm inside and try to get a few different shots of the interior.


Jeff

There is usually a data plate on the interior turret wall at the TC's position. If you can get a shot of it (if one is there) you might be able to get some information.

I'll dig around and see if I can find an image of its location, and post it a little later.

Don
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:43 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- SFC_Jeff_Button
I guess a return trip to the "PV" M1 is in order for tomorrow! I'll climb up on it and all over the top of the hull and turret. Any mark I find I will photograph. I will also re-stick my arm inside and try to get a few different shots of the interior.


Here is a reference image for the turret data plate.



Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 5 of 6
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum