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Does anyone know the location of a early M3 Stuart
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:53 pm
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Does anyone know the location of a early M3 Stuart (British StuartI)? NOT the one with the riveted turret, nor the one with the cast/welded rounded turret. The one I am looking for has a welded slab sided turret. These were used in the Philippine Campaign and North Africa. This picture came from British and American Tanks of WWII page 88 bottom, also anyone have a better picture?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:28 pm
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Aberdeen Proving Ground certainly has an early Stuart "Honey." Its actually the M3A1 pilot. According to Tank Data and the Ordnance Museum Guide CD it is "missing many parts, [but] is identical to the type issued to British armored units via Lend-Lease in 1941."

There%20was%20also%20this%20M3A1%20Stuart%20at%20the%20Virginia%20Museum%20of%20Military%20Vehicles%20a%20few%20years%20back. Of%20course%20Bovington%20has%20one%20-%20albeit%20in%20Brazilian%20colors.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:35 pm
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Niel, nope thats not the type, NOT the one with the riveted turret, nor the one with the cast/welded rounded turret the one I'm looking for has flat plate steel panels welded together. I think they might be quite rare.....
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Okay, try the two others I just added to that post... Do you have a better picture to compare against?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:46 pm
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sorry that the best picture i have. it has a hexagon plate steel cupola that appears to be 6 to 8 inches high. do you have a copy of British and American Tanks of WWII? second paragraph on page 88 describes it. I've look at everything i have but i don't have a picture of one
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:49 pm
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i lied here's anther pic from Concord "Tank Battles of the Pacific War 1941-1945" is this picture of Japanese-captured M3s taken from the Americans on Bataan. Note the slab-sided turrets, and distinctive hexagonal-shaped commander's cupola

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:54 pm
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Closest picture I have is of an M3 Stuart in storage at Fort Knox that has a riveted turret with that kind of cupola...

According to the G103 folks (from last year), the M3A1 Stuart at the Veterans Memorial Museum in Huntsville has a welded D38976 hexagonal turret (one of 100 produced).

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who is G103?
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A Yahoo Group dedicated to Stuart tanks:
groups.yahoo.com/group/G103/

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:25 pm
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thanks i think i posted over there
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:56 pm
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AJ2

I'm not sure but there are a number of Stuarts in Richardson MP.

I think we have 2 of the early models as well as several others, M3 & M5 versions.

One (of the early models) is in decent condition, and there was talk (a couple of years ago, when it arrived) of restoring it with USMC markings, since it was the type that was used in the Pacific Theater.

Guess this really gives you justification for missing the F-1 in Indy, On Saturday... Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:19 pm
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Here's one of them - but its a riveted turret.



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:39 pm
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neil, that is the one, see how the plates are welded together on the sides...I think thats it. where is that?
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Oh, I guess I thought it wasnt supposed to have any rivets on the turret...

That one is in storage at Richardson Motorpool at Fort Knox. I believe that's SN 158.

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- Neil_Baumgardner
Here's one of them - but its a riveted turret.



Neil


Thats one of the ones I was thinking about. It is indeed in Richardson M.P.

BTW: That is original bumper # and unit designation.

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