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Fort Bliss- Duster, Vulcan Cannon & ZSU 23-4
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Test for you CIA types! Anyone see anything wrong with that Duster?
There is something major missing from the area in front of the turret.
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Flash suppressors?

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I agree with Sabot. Flash surpressors missing. Also, the Vulcan Cannon has a seriously broken #1 torsion bar. SN on Vulcan Cannon is CC17.

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Are the extra side sponsons on the vulcan additional armor or extra flotation material to try and maintain it's capability to float with the extra weight (or something else entirely)?

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Are the extra side sponsons on the vulcan additional armor or extra flotation material to try and maintain it's capability to float with the extra weight (or something else entirely)?


Thats a sponson box. Spare barrels are kept below it. (As I recall)

I believe this is the one that was at the old museum. Flash supressors are indeed missing. I seem to recall the old missle park static also had supressors missing.

...As well as antenna bases, M60 mounts, right head light fixture,the gunners aiming sight, and....


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Are the extra side sponsons on the vulcan additional armor or extra flotation material to try and maintain it's capability to float with the extra weight (or something else entirely)?


Thats a sponson box. Spare barrels are kept below it. (As I recall)



Vulcan Neill... Vulcan not the M42!

I dunno I take a week off and everything has gone to pot Wink

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[quote="Roy_A_Lingle"]Hi Folks!

- MarkHolloway

Test for you CIA types! Anyone see anything wrong with that Duster?
There is something major missing from the area in front of the turret.
Sgt, Scouts out!


IIRC that particular vehicle originally served in Vietnam with the name 'FOX' and was in its original colour scheme before someone decided to change it to match the other vehicles. The available images of FOX show that it didn't have any flash suppressors (the missing item) fitted in Vietnam.

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Hi Folks!

I said "MAJOR". All the other items are correct and what I would call minor and normal for a display vehicle.

This one is missing something that should NOT be missing from any vehicle that is on display.

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Hatch missing...???

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Hatch missing...???

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We have a bingo!

The base for the radio operator's hatch has broken lose and the hatch is laying down inside the hull, leaving the interior open to the elements.

Well done CIA member Dontos!
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Man, I havent even posted to this thread and I'm getting called out! Wink

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Outside Building 2920 right? What road is that on anyway?

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Man, I havent even posted to this thread and I'm getting called out! Wink

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Yeah Its your turn to get blamed for everything this week Smile

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Hi Neil! Hi Folks!

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Outside Building 2920 right? What road is that on anyway?

Neil


The building is one of three buildings that are in the middle of two very large parking lots. There is no near by street.

If you can look at Google Earth, try:

31 degrees, 48' 51.15" N by 106 degrees, 24' 43.06" W

Carrington Road is the North/South street to the west of a line of three buildings. Building 2920 is the eastern most building and the three vehicles are along the south side of the hex shape building where the three sidewalks come together. Photo is out of date and currently does not show these three vehicles. If you check the musuem parking lot you will only see the M42 Duster that is there along with a 88mm flak gun which is currently inside the musuem.

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