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April 24th Sunday flight :: Archived
Come join us each Sunday as we fly around the world exploring new and unusual scenery. We combine some great planes and flight plans with second to none pilots who'll always take the time to teach new comers! All are welcome!
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Uhu_Rodion
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:51 pm
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Another demanding flight across the Andes!

#20 SKBO Bogota/Eldorado Intl (Colombia) -> SEQU Quito/Mariscal Sucre Intl. (Ecuador)
Overall distance: 444,2 nm.
Estimated time: 0:50 h.

SKBO
GIR (Girardot) - VOR 117,30 MHz - no NDB - HDG 236° - leg 52,1 nm.
NVA (Neiva) - VOR 115,80 MHz - no NDB - HDG 201° - leg 71,7 nm.
FLA (Florencia) - VOR 112,40 MHz - no NDB - HDG 190° - leg 96,5 nm.
LAV (Lago Agrio) - VOR 112,30 MHz - NDB 412,0 kHz - HDG 226° - leg 116,3 nm.
CD35 - Intersection - HDG 256° - leg 98,2 nm.
CF35 - Intersection - HDG 300° - leg 1,7 nm.
FF35 - Intersection - HDG 350° - leg 2,8 nm.
SEQU - VOR 114,80 MHz - NDB 350,0 kHz - HDG 350° - leg 5,0 nm.
elevation: 9.226 ft.
runways:
17 - asphalt - 10.273 ft. - no ILS
35 - asphalt - 10.273 ft. - ILS IQO - 110,500 MHz - 352°

Aircraft: Boeing 737-700 - 737 Experience (take the new 1.2 version announced here:
-> www.com-central.net/in...&t=792 )
Cruise speed: 320 KIAS
Cruise altitude: 20.000 ft.
Weather: real
Time: 12:00 local - 16:00 GMT



The package including flight plan, bigger map and text file with navigation data can be downloaded here:
-> 216.176.86.154/marco/f...CC_020.zip
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Uhu_Fledermaus
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:02 am
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Cool

Kewl !! a lil bit of mountain hopping Laughing


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Uhu_Fledermaus
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:13 pm
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Laughing

OK, for the ones that missed out here you can get the update to 19 paintjobs for the 737-700 "Experience"

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Uhu_Rodion
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:16 pm
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Getting it right now!
Thank you very much, Fled! Mr. Green


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:37 pm
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Nice work fellas...:D
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:46 am
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Cool

I'm still sweating here for the hassle I had getting all save and sound on the ground at Quito today Laughing

attached some piccie's I took along the way




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:01 am
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After we landed here is what I saw. There were several lightning strikes that were awesome but I wasnt quick enough to get em.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:32 am
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Laughing I see Marco still likes the grass. I will be back in the air in 2 weeks. It will be the following sunday that I may join the flights again.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:59 am
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Laughing

yup ! looks like Marco has a definitive affection with the green stuff surrounding the run and taxiways Wink

Good news to hear that you will be back in the air shortly Wingy !

Looking forward to you joining us again for the sunday ventures


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Uhu_Rodion
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:04 pm
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LOL! It might be 'cause lately I spend my spare time as a gardener Wink
Anyway, given the particular circumstances, Fled made and outstanding job as ATC: I believe it was a hard affair to keep control over the whole situation, and sure I didn't help him




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:56 pm
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Great pictures - and a real challenge to get the 737 into the airport!

I found this about winglets - just in case anyone is interested...

"In the airline industry's latest attempt to control soaring fuel costs, strange-looking fins are appearing on the wingtips of passenger jets around the world...

The curling wingtips, which can jut as high as 15 feet above the wing, are quickly becoming a familiar sight for air travelers... Winglets are part of a never-ending quest to improve the aerodynamics of planes. One basic principle: longer wings provide more lift. But long wings can get floppy, and make maneuvering among closely packed airport gates a problem. Meanwhile, air currents swirling off the tips of wings create a drag that slows down airplanes and makes the engine work harder.

Mother Nature first solved this problem with strong feathers that flip up at the wingtips of soaring birds like eagles. The upturned feathers give the birds more lift and reduce drag. For more than a century, aeronautic engineers unsuccessfully tried to replicate this effect by bolting vertical plates to the end of plane wings.

In the late 1970s, National Aeronautics and Space Administration engineer Dick Whitcomb tried a new approach, mimicking the wing shape in the fin, thus coining the term winglets. Industry engineers were at first skeptical of the benefits. Plus, fuel prices were dropping and airlines found the savings didn't justify the hefty investment of installing winglets. Some corporate jet makers, such as General Dynamics Corp.'s Gulfstream Aerospace, began using winglets to enhance their planes.

In 1985, commercial plane maker Airbus, a joint venture between European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. (EADS), which owns 80% of Airbus, and BAE Systems PLC, began adding tiny devices at the ends of wings that had a similar effect. But the more dramatic winglet approach stalled until Aviation Partners Inc., a small venture made up of retired aeronautic engineers, began tinkering with its own design in the 1990s.

The result: a winglet that gradually curves up from the surface of the wing, like the tip of a ski, instead of the abrupt angle of earlier designs. The group teamed up with Boeing in 1999 after convincing the company's engineers that the design could cut fuel use by more than 100,000 gallons per plane each year."



From my own (sadly depleting grey matter), the air on the upper surface of the wing slides outwards because of the high pressure, and the air underneath the wing slides in towards the fuselage because of the lower pressure. This creates the wingtip vortices you see in damp weather, as the two moving air currents swirl about each other...

This increases drag, and as the article says, makes the engines work harder. So, if you can reduce this vortex, you improve fuel efficiency. Even before wiglets, planes had a number of ways to cope with this - look hard at a 737 and you'll see little blades on the top surface of the wing, which try and break up this movement of air to wingtip, and some of the russian and older western planes planes such as the Tu-154 and B727, have huge fences half way down the wing for the same reason.


Anyway, was a great flight with or without curling wings!!!

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