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The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:45 am
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I think I know the answer but but a friend doesn' think so.

are the crew compartments on the M1 airconditioned?
Thanks in advance

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:54 am
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Jeff,
Only on the A2 SEP's last I heard.

All earlier A1/A2 models use Bleed air from the Turbine to run the NBC overpressure system, it's not very good (for cooling). The original A2's ducted the bleed air to keep the electronic components cool. SEP has a real A/C.

Why would anyone think the AC would be for the crew Laughing , it took temperature sensitive electronics to finally get A/C Wink .

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Jeff,
Only on the A2 SEP's last I heard.

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Joe,
Did you ever have occasion to use the "gas particulate system" on a 60- series that used a hosed system connected to face masks that bore a strong resemblance to what we associate with fighter pilot fashionwear?
Did this system ever get "issued"?
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Doug,
Yep, every tank I served on had it, used the tanker's mask (M25) with it instead of the old M17, the newer mask is the M40/42 series, 42 is set up for the Gas Particulate.

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Doug,
Yep, every tank I served on had it, used the tanker's mask (M25) with it instead of the old M17, the newer mask is the M40/42 series, 42 is set up for the Gas Particulate.

Joe


I ask because sometimes I never knew what became of systems I tested at the Armor Board...and that was one of them. Summer of '72 or '73, I forget which. We were dreading it at first because the idea of wearing a full face mask running around Carpenter Test Area near the Ohio River in a humid Kentucky summer was not at all appealing....then we found that it was, in fact, like having an air conditioner for your face. Probably some evaporative cooling effect from removing the humidity....but definitely blew cool air into the mask...we actually liked it! One of the better projects...drive the wiz out an M60A1 in the CTA without interferance and generally have a blast. Good times! Laughing

(The less said about what could be done with the mask on and the hose disconnected from the system at other times, the better.... )
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Doug

Its still used, as back up if the NBC system malfunctions. (Which is known to happen on occasion)

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Doug

Its still used, as back up if the NBC system malfunctions. (Which is known to happen on occasion)

Don


Well, now you know just how old that MoHunk really is! Laughing

(you got a pic?, I'd really like to see the mask)
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Doug

Its still used, as back up if the NBC system malfunctions. (Which is known to happen on occasion)

Don


Well, now you know just how old that MoHunk really is! Laughing

(you got a pic?, I'd really like to see the mask)



Will this do??



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Doug

Its still used, as back up if the NBC system malfunctions. (Which is known to happen on occasion)

Don


Well, now you know just how old that MoHunk really is! Laughing

(you got a pic?, I'd really like to see the mask)



Will this do??



Don


That thar' be it! I'd recognize that puppy from a soccer field away. I's on that project, one of the good 'un's. Glad it paid off. Thanks!
(Tested the first version of that CVC, too...we started out hating it, but realized it really was more comfy).
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So what kind of residuals do you get on the products?

And is that your beginning in the medical technology business?

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So what kind of residuals do you get on the products?

And is that your beginning in the medical technology business?


Somehow, the residuals seem to have ended with the G.I. Bill benefits. Then again, those led, eventually (after a severely contorted and indirect pathway Rolling Eyes ) to the Medical Technology thingy. I guess I can say I don't feel cheated too badly. Pity about the war thing, though. Not everybody fared as well.
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That thar' be it! I'd recognize that puppy from a soccer field away. I's on that project, one of the good 'un's. Glad it paid off. Thanks!
(Tested the first version of that CVC, too...we started out hating it, but realized it really was more comfy).


This is from TM 9-2350-255-10, M-1(& IPM-1) Abrams. It is my original OSUT Training Manual, that I was given in 1985.

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