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Need some help does anyone know what is going on at Kubinka?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:07 pm
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- Taranov

SP-6 paint stripper + angle sander vs. 70 years old paint (2 mm thickness).


If I understand well, the tanks were in original colours (or pre-WW2 ones) before you repainted them?
I would have preferred that the old paint was kept instead of repainting them..

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Or at least that some kind of record could have been kept... Crying or Very sad Just like they did with Bovington´s Tiger I.
Are you going to apply the same treatment to German vehicles?
If so could you please record things like base colour, cammo schemes and interior colours as they appear under the paint layers? Some pictures would be nice too...
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Taranov - Thanks for sharing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:32 pm
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- the_shadock

If I understand well, the tanks were in original colours (or pre-WW2 ones) before you repainted them?
I would have preferred that the old paint was kept instead of repainting them..
P-O


We paint tank in one of RAL colors, simitar to 4BO. Sand Yellow simitar to 6K, Brown to 7K soviet colors. When we are remove paint layers from TT-26, we found clean original color, very simitar to RAL.

BTW, original markings of TT-26 prototype:
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Taranov Did you have any photos TKS preserved in Kubinka?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:26 am
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If I understand well, the tanks were in original colours (or pre-WW2 ones) before you repainted them?
I would have preferred that the old paint was kept instead of repainting them..
P-O


We paint tank in one of RAL colors, simitar to 4BO. Sand Yellow simitar to 6K, Brown to 7K soviet colors. When we are remove paint layers from TT-26, we found clean original color, very simitar to RAL.

BTW, original markings of TT-26 prototype:


Looks like you´re doing your best, thank for your pictures but don´t forget that every bit of info that is lost now, could be very important in a non distant future...
May I suggest you to preserve paint chips of the original paint layers? Just like a reference Mr. Green
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Taranov Did you have any photos TKS preserved in Kubinka?


Right now no. He is in not bad condition, missed small details like Hotckiss WZ.25 mount.
BTW any refs of original WP armour colors can be useful. We have plans to repaint TKS in original colors. Also we have plans of 37M Ansaldo repaint - current paintscheme is awful (italian desert paintscheme on the hungarian tankette looks strange Laughing )
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Taranov Did you have any photos TKS preserved in Kubinka?


Right now no. He is in not bad condition, missed small details like Hotckiss WZ.25 mount.
BTW any refs of original WP armour colors can be useful. We have plans to repaint TKS in original colors. Also we have plans of 37M Ansaldo repaint - current paintscheme is awful (italian desert paintscheme on the hungarian tankette looks strange Laughing )


derela.republika.pl/tk_con.htm
I don't know did this web is enought but I think that contact with webmaster could be interesting if you want repaint TKS.

And small gallery TKS preserved in Poland
derela.republika.pl/tks_gal.htm
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Hello Taranov:

I have a favour to ask about one of the tanks in Kubinka's collection - the M4A2(76)HVSS. Could you please contact me offline at scot4944 @ rogers.com?

Cheers and thanks,

Scott Taylor
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Hello Taranov:

I have a favour to ask about one of the tanks in Kubinka's collection - the M4A2(76)HVSS. Could you please contact me offline at scot4944 @ rogers.com?

Cheers and thanks,

Scott Taylor


Use private messages system Wink
In Kubinka preserved two M4 Medium Tanks - M4A4 (few tanks arrived for tests, not used in Red Army) and M4A2E8 76(W).
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Some progress shots
We start new project - VCL M.1931 tank. Initial idea - 4-tone camo, like on the chinese tanks, but under paint layers we found Red Army markings:
My%20reconstruction%20of%20original%20Kubinka's%20VCL%20M.1931%20markings.%20Maybe%20he%20used%20in%20Red%20Army%20first. Cleaned%20parts%20-%20markings%20on%20every%20detail%208O%20 Front%20side%20cleaning%20is%20finished%20(5%20hours%20non-stop%20cleaning%20with%20angle%20sander,%20hands%20\"little\"%20tired...)

BTW anyone know, where serial number of this VCL M.1931 is located?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:24 am
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Back to TKS
On this week AFVs in hangar #7 (France, Hungary, Japan etc) prepared for repaint (not ours repaint team, it's work of museum members for tankman's day, we are only help with paintschemes and markings). Now TKS front plate and data plate on back side armor plate is cleaned:


Need help of polish community. Can be very nice to know history of this TKS. Number of regiment where he is used, history of regiment etc.
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I post your photo on few polish forum about ww2 and tanks. Mayby some guys could answer for this question.
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Some news

News #1 - unofficial data of opening - 6-th september
News #2 - we found serial number of hungarian 37M Ansaldo tankette. H-153. In fact, some years ago original paint has been removed, only on the front armor plate preserved original colors and markings (i think, soldiers been too lazy for paint removing from this plate). Interesting - simitar number (H-151) have captured 37M Ansaldo tankette in Budapest, winter 1944-45. Maybe Kubinka's 37M also from Budapest.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:30 am
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Hello Taranov, How is October 12 though 14th looking for the museum being open to the public?? Those are the dates I will be there, will we get to meet you??
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