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On which basis were made these Panzers repros?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:11 pm
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Hello,

I need your help to determine which tanks were used to make these reproductions of Panzer IIs and Panzer IIIs, apparently in Russia.

First Panzer III :

Panzer%20II%20:%20 [img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?s=181936c58b03d4addc41c7b2f81cde2e&act=Attach&type=post&id=19959[/img] [img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?s=181936c58b03d4addc41c7b2f81cde2e&act=Attach&type=post&id=19956[/img] [img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=20116[/img] Tiger%20I%20(most%20probably%20a%20T-55%20tank..) [img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=20314[/img] [img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=20315[/img] Another%20Panzer%20III%20:%20 [img]http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=22967[/img]

source : http://www.antik-war.lv/viewtopic.php?t=14253

and http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?showtopic=10149

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:47 pm
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The panzer III might be based on the Frog missle launcher chassis. The road wheels on the Panzer II seem so familar but I just can't put my finger on it right now


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:34 pm
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The TI looks like a Russian T-34 or T-55 just by the spacing of the road wheels and the pattern on the tracks.



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:36 pm
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The only one I can say for certain, is the Tiger. It's based on a T62 hull. You can tell from the cooling fan bulge on the rear wall. The Pz II could be off a SU-57 and the second Pz III looks like it could be off a SU-76 or something from that family. These guys have gone a long way to convert road wheels, drive sprockets, and wheel spacing to try to get a panzer.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:00 pm
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"First Panzer III" seems to be built on ISU or SCUD TEL chassis I guess.

"Another Panzer III" sporting number 623 is a look-alike mount on BMP chassis... DEFINITELY.
Tracks are not original - they look to be odd to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:08 am
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- palic


"Another Panzer III" sporting number 623 is a look-alike mount on BMP chassis... DEFINITELY.
Tracks are not original - they look to be odd to me.


Sure is. I knew that drive spocket and idler looked familiar. I'll bet the tracks are off a SU76.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:59 am
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I would say "Panzer II" could be built on a heavily modified chassis of GT-SM tracked ATV - at least roadwheels and idler look pretty same, drive sprocket looks strange to me.

Just for comparison: forum.valka.cz/viewtop.../SOV-GT-SM

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:49 am
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Pierre-Olivier,

the first Pz. III is actually based on a postwar Swiss [!] "Panzer 61" ! It's one of two such conversions done for the movie "Enemy at the Gates". (Read also here !)


(Source: Wikimedia)

Hope this helps!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:02 am
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Thanks for your help !!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:41 pm
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- palic
I would say "Panzer II" could be built on a heavily modified chassis of GT-SM tracked ATV - at least roadwheels and idler look pretty same, drive sprocket looks strange to me.

Just for comparison: forum.valka.cz/viewtop.../SOV-GT-SM

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Very clever! I hadn't seen this little fella before. If it followed me home after school, I WOULD definately keep it.

www.pwgs.org/products/...g34034.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:45 pm
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Puma replica in progress
www.livinghistory.ru//...entry87096
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