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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:43 pm
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Hello everyone, I've started a little project over here tinyurl.com/p58plg I thought it might be nice to put all the Aberdeen vehicles in one place, so I've started posting them but as usual I need a little from my friends. I have several Unknowns, I'm pretty sure you all can ID them. Thanks a bunch for the help.Give me a few days to get the rest posted, then any you don't see please feel free to add them. I know the collection will be on the move soon and a lot of people will never get the chance to see these, so maybe this will help some....
This is not going to work for 56K folks, sorry
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#42 in your B lot is an M60A2 "Starship"

you can find a PDF on identifying M60 variants here
www.com-central.net/in...loads&c=81

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In 'Lot A'

Picture 1 is an M108 SP 105mm Howitzer
Picture 15 is an M109 SP 155mm Howitzer

I believe Picture 4 is a T54/55
and Picture 12 is an LVTP7 hull

I think it curious that you knew all the oddball vehicles but had problems on what were probably the most common postwar vehicles Rolling Eyes

In 'Lot B'


Picture 19 - I do mnot believe this is a 'DD' vehicle but just a 'Deep Wading' test vehicle

Picture 23 is the hull of an M107 or M110 (175mm SP gun or 8" SP Howitzer)
Picture 29 is an M-8 AGS
Picture 32 is an M60 (This is the one with the experimental shocks which has JoeD interested Mr. Green )
Picture 33 is an M47( or it's T series predecessor)
Picture 37 is technically the T series predecessor to the M103
Picture 41 is a T54/55
Picture 42 as already noted is an M60A2

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:28 am
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In 'Lot C'

Picture 48 - UNK - is the M44:



#111 on this page:

www.preservedtanks.com...p;Select=4

It seems to have survived better than most of those others.

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It has been through the refurb shop. The difference between it and the other ones that have is that there was obviously track available for it. Most of the others that have been through refurb that were in those areas did not have tracks or they would have been moved to the display areas. Track for VVSS Shermans and Ontos have proven impossible to acquire

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:19 am
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Lot 1 pic4 Is a T-62 not T-55/54 Wink
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lot B pic 36 is a T41
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Thanks everyone so far, I will add more later today.....Do we like the idea of the vehicles in one place? Do we want Artillery?
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OK, We have the vehicles I saw excepting the main exhibit area. I will post them soon....
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FYI,
Here's my current APG list for the AFV Register (ignore the footnote numbering):

ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND
US Army Ordnance Museum (Building 2601), 2601 Aberdeen Blvd 1
2S1 SOV out Position I8
BMP-2 SOV out Position H7
BRDM-2 SOV out Position H10
BTR-60PB SOV out Position C7
Chieftain Mk 1 GBR/DEU out Gift from German BWB2; Position B15
Churchill Mk III GBR out Gift from UK 1944 3; Position A25
GPF 194 FRA out Only surviving example 4; Position C1
GW Lorraine Schlepper(f) FRA out Captured at El Alemein 5; Position C5
Heuschrecke IVb Grasshopper DEU out Only surv. Prototype 6; Position C10
JgPz IV/70 DEU out Position C24
JS-3M SOV/EGY/ISR out SN 11306 7;Position B13; 1 of 3 in US
KJgPz 4-5 Jagdpanzer Kanone DEU out Position C30
KV-1C SOV out Only KV-1 in U.S. 8; Position A19
Leopard 1 Type IIA prototype DEU out SN 10586/T36; Position B16 9
M1 Grizzly prototype USA out Prototype G001 (SN 1?); Position A18
M2 Medium with M2A1 turret USA out SN 2, RN 30445 10; Position A11
M3 Bradley USA out “Nasty Boyz;” in front of the Museum
M3 Grant Mk I USA/GBR out SN 1054, RN 305124 11; Position A24
M3A1 Stuart Mk IV 'Honey' USA out M3A1 Pilot; SN 3571 12; Position A23
M4A1E8 Sherman Easy Eight USA out SN 68827 13, RN 30126806; Pkg Lot
M4A2 Sherman “Firefly” USA out M4A2 w/ Firefly turret 14; Parking Lot
M4A4 Sherman USA out Exp. HVSS; SN 19617 15; Position A22
M5A1 Stuart USA out SN 2641 16; “Jeb;” Inside
M7 Priest USA out SN 3167, RN 4040083 17; Position C11
M10 GMC USA/ITA out SN 6196, RN 4011031 18; Position B4
M16 GMC USA out RN 4050954; no guns; Position H8
M20 USA out SN 404-C?; Position H9
M24 Chaffee USA out “Skeeter;” SN 3874 19; Position B3
M37 HMC USA out Possibly T76 pilot
M40 GMC USA out “Big Shot”
M42 Duster USA out SN 26?; Position H1
M55 USA out “Tiny Tim;” Position C29
M.13/40 ITA out Position A21
Mk A Whippet GBR out Arrived at APG 1917 20; Position A15
Mk IIA Medium GBR out N Africa combat vet. 21; Position A6
Mk IV Female GBR out 1 of 6 surv. examples; Position A4 22
Matilda Mk II GBR out Captured at El Alamein23; Position A16
MBT-70 Pilot No. 3 USA out SN 3, RN 09A00367 24; Position B5
PzJg 38(t) Marder III Ausf M DEU out Recov. from Tunisia 25; Position C17
PzJg 38(t) Marder III Pak 36(r) DEU out Captured at El Alamein26; Position C12
PzJg Nashorn / Hornisse DEU out Position C16; captured in Italy
PzJg Tiger(P) Elefant DEU out Recovered from Italy 27; Parking Lot
PzJg V Jagdpanther DEU out Hull number 303018 28; Position C25
PzJg VI Jagdtiger Ausf B DEU out Gun jammed in recoil 29; Position C26
PzKpfw I Ausf B DEU out Recovered from Libya 30; Position A8
PzKpfw III Ausf L DEU out Recovered from Tunisia 31; Position B1
PzKpfw III Ausf N DEU out 37mm gun 32; Position A17
PzKpfw IV Ausf D/E/F DEU out 75mm gun from Ausf N33; Position A13
PzKpfw IV Ausf FG DEU out Hydrostatic drive prot. 34; Position B12
PzKpfw V Panther Ausf A DEU out Recovered from Italy 35; Position B6
PzKpfw V Panther Ausf G DEU out Recov. from FRA or ITA 36; Position B7
PT-76B SOV out Position B14
Renault R-35 Model ZM FRA out Parking Lot
Semovente da 47/32 su L6/40 ITA out Captured at Tobruk 37; Position C13
Semovente da 75/18 su M.41 ITA out Captured at Tobruk 38; Position C14
Semovente da 149/40 su M.14 ITA out Recovered from Tunisia 39; Position C4
sIG 33/1 Grille DEU out Recovered from Italy 40; Position C6
Skeleton Tank USA out Only one built; Outside the Museum
SOMUA S 35 FRA std Rec. from Hilliersleben 41; Position A12
StPz IV Brummbar DEU out Position C9
StuG III Ausf G DEU out Recovered from Italy 42; Position C18
StuH 42 (Early model) DEU out Missing muzzle brake 43; Position C19
StuH 42 (Late model) DEU out Recovered from France44; Position C27
SU-76M SOV out Captured in Korea 45; Position C21
SU-100 SOV out Position C28; One of three in the US
T1E1 Heavy Tank USA std Pilot M6, only survivor; parking lot
T59 APC USA out Position H4; Pilot M59
T64E1 “Gorilla” HMC USA out M41 HMC pilot, SN 2; Position H5
T92 Light Tank USA out SN 3?, RN 981281 46; Position I?
T249 Vigilante USA std Only prototype built
T-34/76B Model 1941 SOV out Used by Germans 47; Position A20
T-34/85 Model 1945 SOV out Position B9; “Suvorov”
T-34/85 Model 1945 SOV out Position B10; Sectionalized
T-54 SOV out SN 5204E019; Position C8
T-72M SOV/POL/IRQ out SN K12BT4233 48; In front of museum
Type 1 (Type 97) Ho-Ni JPN out Capt. in Phil or Okinawa 49; Position C2
Type 89B Chi-Ro (Model 94) JPN out Position A7
Type 95 Ha-Go JPN out Captured on Attu, AK 50; Position A10
Type 653 CHN/IRQ out Position I4
XM1 Abrams USA out “Thunderbolt,” SN H002; in front

Fanshaw Field Parade Ground
M3A1 Lee USA out SN 1962, RN 306032 51; ”Lu Lu Belle”
M22 Locust USA out RN 3023588 52
M113 USA out “Iron Butterfly II”
T70 Hellcat GMC USA out T70 pilot number 3; “Fearless Felix” 53
T114 USA out RN 12M651

Maryland Ave
M3A5 Lee USA out SN 1355, RN 305425 54

Museum Restoration Facility (Building 5045)
Semovente da 90/53 su M.41 ITA std Captured in N. Africa 55; Front
Type 97 Shinhoto Chi-Ha JPN std Captured on Iwo Jima 56; Front

Museum Warehouse (Building 4038)
ASU-57 SOV std Inside
Crusader Mk III GBR std Inside 57
FT-17 with M1917 turret FRA/USA std “K-K-K-Katy” 58; Inside
JgPz 38(t) Hetzer DEU std Captured at Pilsen 59; Inside; restored
M2A2E3 USA std SN 248, RN 30368 60; Inside
M3 Stuart diesel USA std SN 2704, RN 303238 61; Inside
M3 Scout Car USA std Inside
M16B GMC USA std Inside; SN 28910, RN 4062171 62
M39 USA std Inside; One of six survivors?
M1914 White Armored Car USA std “Armored Car No. 2”
M1917 USA std? First M1917 63; Inside
M1918 Ford 3-ton Tank USA std 1 of 2 surv. examples; Runner; Inside
M1920 GMC USA std Only one built; Inside
M1922E Mk X GMC USA std ”Slo Poke”; Only one built; Inside
Mk VIB GBR std Obtained from Canada 1944 64; Inside
Sd.Kfz. 10 DEU std
T1E2 Light Tank USA std Only surv. T1 tank; RN 30263? 65
T3 Christie Tank USA std Only surv. Christie prototype; Inside 66
T-34/76C Model 1942 SOV std Gift of of the Soviet government 67
XM104 SPH USA std SN 3; Warehouse

Convoy Rd Storage
HSTV-L USA std High Survivability Test Vehicle - Light
LVT4 USA std
LVT7 hull USA std Missing tracks
M3 Scout Car USA std
M4A2E8 DD Sherman USA std
M4A3E8 Sherman Easy Eight USA std SN 61438, RN 30114460 68
M12 GMC USA std SN 35, RN 4055524 69; Only survivor?
M41 Walker Bulldog USA std
M60A3 USA std SN 299
M67A1/A2? Patton USA std SN 1237W; flamethrower
M108 USA std? Formerly outside the Museum
M109A3 USA std SN 227OW/O BII
PzKpfw III Ausf N DEU std Recovered from ETO 70
SU-100 SOV/EGY/ISR std Captured by Israel in Sinai in 1956 71
T18E2 APC USA std M75 pilot
T97 GMC USA std M53 pilot; 1 of 5 known M53 survivors
T-62 SOV std SN H05B2559 72
Type 63 CHN/VNM std Recovered from Vietnam 73
XM247 Sergeant York USA std SN AID251

Raritan Ave Storage
M4A1(75) Sherman Calliope USA std SN 7320, RN 3058832 74
M8 HMC USA std SN 339, RN 4051572 75; 1 of 5 in US
M56 Scorpion USA std
T23 Medium Tank USA std One of three surviving T23 pilots
T23 Medium Tank USA std One of three surviving T23 pilots
T88 HMC USA std Only 1 built; based on M18 Hellcat 76
T165E2 Ontos USA std SN 19
XM551 Sheridan USA std RN 12FD25 77

Susquehanna Ave & Boothby Hill Ave Storage
M5A1 Stuart with wading eqpt USA std SN 6490, RN 3049602 78
M7 Medium Tank USA std RN 3095066; Only survivor
M7 Priest USA std SN 2623
M8 Armored Gun System USA std 79
M20 USA std
M26 Pershing USA std SN 1602
M32A1B3 USA std
M47 Patton USA std Outside; SN 8089
M60A0 USA std SN 7; Has 3 shocks per side 80
M60A2 USA std SN 4430
M110 chassis USA std Missing howitzer
M901 ITV USA std
M992 FAASV USA std
M1922 Medium A USA std Only one built
T2 Medium Tank USA std Only one built; formerly Maryland Blvd
T4 Medium Tank USA std Only surv.; RN 20252; fmr Md Blvd 81
T25E1 Medium Tank USA std SN 18, RN 30103291
T25E1 Medium Tank USA std SN 40, RN 30103269
T30 Heavy Tank USA std SN 1, RN 30162842 82
T41 Light Tank USA std M41 Walker Bulldog pilot
T42 Medium Tank USA std Formerly on the Mile of Tanks
T43E1 Heavy Tank USA std M103 pilot
T54E1 Medium Tank USA std Only surviving pilot?
T71 “Slugger” GMC USA std M36 pilot, SN 76 83
T92 HMC USA std SN 1; “King Kong” 84
T-55 SOV std Ex NGIC?
XM800W ARSV USA std SN 3, of four built

61st Ordnance Brigade (Building 3071)
M48A2C Patton USA out SN 518

Theater Building
PT-76 SOV out

USAOMMS Weapons Department (Building 5016)
M41 Walker Bulldog USA out

This doesnt include "behind the fence" and the 203rd MI Battalion's threat vehicles...

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:01 pm
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Thanks Neil, the list slipped my mind. Would anyone happen to have a pics of the vehicles in the Museum Warehouse (Building 5045) that I could include in the photo listing? Any pics would help, most of mine are predigital and very green. Thanks everyone

ASU-57 SOV std Inside
Crusader Mk III GBR std Inside 57
FT-17 with M1917 turret FRA/USA std “K-K-K-Katy” 58; Inside
JgPz 38(t) Hetzer DEU std Captured at Pilsen 59; Inside; restored
M2A2E3 USA std SN 248, RN 30368 60; Inside
M3 Stuart diesel USA std SN 2704, RN 303238 61; Inside
M3 Scout Car USA std Inside
M16B GMC USA std Inside; SN 28910, RN 4062171 62
M39 USA std Inside; One of six survivors?
M1914 White Armored Car USA std “Armored Car No. 2”
M1918 Ford 3-ton Tank USA std 1 of 2 surv. examples; Runner; Inside
M1920 GMC USA std Only one built; Inside
M1922E Mk X GMC USA std ”Slo Poke”; Only one built; Inside
Mk VIB GBR std Obtained from Canada 1944 64; Inside
Sd.Kfz. 10 DEU std
T1E2 Light Tank USA std Only surv. T1 tank; RN 30263? 65
T3 Christie Tank USA std Only surv. Christie prototype; Inside 66
T-34/76C Model 1942 SOV std Gift of of the Soviet government 67
XM104 SPH USA std SN 3; Warehouse


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Sure, I have pictures of most - which I have started linking to the AFV Register...

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oh ok, is it ok to post them over at CDSG site?
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Yeah, its a matter of me posting them on here or wherever... And my schedule may be a bit busy, for say the next week or so? Wink

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