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a FT17 cause I'm bored
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:19 pm
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a FT17 cause I'm bored, I need a job.....corrected



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You have a job, AJ, and it's here. Sorry the pay can't be better. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:24 pm
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I just noticed that doesn't have hooks on it, is it a FT17?
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I'm not bored but I still need a job!

I wish we could get some definitive info on the difference between M1917 and FT17.

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I'm not bored but I still need a job!

I wish we could get some definitive info on the difference between M1917 and FT17.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:49 pm
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All M1917's I've seen have the hooks just aft of the turret, feel free to correct this. I think if you look at Pierre's pics you will see this, the M1917's have hooks, the FT17's don't. The muffler and front wheel are also a give aways, but the hooks you can spot from a long ways off. I always thought they were to lift the tank aboard ship for the big trip to war, but i don't know that....

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:48 am
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- MarkHolloway
I'm not bored but I still need a job!

I wish we could get some definitive info on the difference between M1917 and FT17.


The exhaust is usually the best way....

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:20 am
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A good example of what I'm saying, no hooks makes it a FT17, sometimes hard to tell where the muffler is in pics. Hooks stand out in almost all views

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:05 am
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I found this, this must be the factory that is making M1917's, notice hooks..the top pic must be a pattern tank, for lack of any other term...



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I notice some turrets are cast and others plate. I wonder if that makes a difference for IDing?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:43 pm
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some don't have turrets, but Pierre knows about the turrets. Again a "simple" way is the hooks and it seems to be true 99.9% of the time. Lets don't make this too hard.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:44 pm
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some don't have turrets, but Pierre knows about the turrets. Again a "simple" way is the hooks and it seems to be true 99.9% of the time. Lets don't make this too hard.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:52 pm
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about the 1st photo on the post, we can see the metal structure for the small metal box on the left side, so it is a Renault FT.

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Here is a decent comparison to add fuel to the conversation:



Both images were taken today.
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Hi don happy new year and everyone else
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