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http://www.modellbauforen.de/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=eb549d33129087e9bf7304574af704b1;act=ST;f=4;t=15820

This vehicle seems to be modified with the addition of an Universal Carrier chassis, but was it originally a German or British truck/lorry?

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Hi P-O

It is German truck

The German army used obselete Panzer I track assembly's to convert standard truck to halftrack truck's

The most famous is the Opel Blitz generaly called Maultier (Mule)

However the German army also used big quantities of captured British Universal Carrier (or similair captured equipmant) to convert standard truck to halftrack truck's
They even produced their own version of the carrier track assembly

This was done with truck's from al major truckbuilders, so Mercedes and of course the Ford Motor Company

And that is what we have here, an Ford V3000S Maultier
www.modelltreff.de/gal.../index.htm

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Here is the german-produced version of the universal suspension/tracks.


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If you think about it, it is an strange thing Confused Confused

The largest truck suppliers for the German Wehrmacht where actually American companies

The Opel Blitz truck, the most used truck in the German army
In 1931 the General Motors Corporation became 100% owner of OPEL

The FORD V3000 V-8 trucks, build at the Ford-Werke Cologne
The Ford-Werke are an subsidiary of the Ford Motor Company
Subsidiary means that the Ford Motor Company owned more then 50% of the share's

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The largest truck suppliers for the German Wehrmacht where actually American companies


Probably best not to actually bring this up.....

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Probably best not to actually bring this up.....


sorry, it was stronger then me


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The largest truck suppliers for the German Wehrmacht where actually American companies


Probably best not to actually bring this up.....


I must ask as to why this has to be hushed up?

isn't it a fact, or are we suppose to suffer from a selective memory ?
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The largest truck suppliers for the German Wehrmacht where actually American companies


Probably best not to actually bring this up.....


I must ask as to why this has to be hushed up?

isn't it a fact, or are we suppose to suffer from a selective memory ?


Valid point. The triumph of business interests over other considerations. As long as this thread doesn't take an ominous political swerve, there is no harm in acknowledging history.
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This brings me to the following question. Was Continental a German or a US firm before the 2nd WW? This because I've seen German tanks from the 2nd World War with rubber around the roadwheels with the name ''continental'' on it.

I remember that I was very surprised about this.

Just a question, nothing more!!
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The largest truck suppliers for the German Wehrmacht where actually American companies


Probably best not to actually bring this up.....


I must ask as to why this has to be hushed up?

isn't it a fact, or are we suppose to suffer from a selective memory ?


No - its just that it starts the same old arguements -rather like the topic of british lend-lease repayments......

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Was Continental a German or a US firm before the 2nd WW


I have been searching and Continental has been and still is an German company

The actually name is Continental AG and it was founded in 1871 in Hannover, Germany

From what I could find, they did not go to the US untill 1987 when it bought an US tire manufacturer called General Tire
(I think all US companies start or end with General Mr. Green )

At the present time it is part of the German Scheaffler Group, known in Europe for INA roller bearings

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(I think all US companies start or end with General Mr. Green )


you know, the 3 most famous Generals in the USA are :

General Motors
General Electric
General Mills

(sorry for General Patton, he isn't in the top 3).

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sorry for General Patton, he isn't in the top 3


He is not even among the top 5, adding to the list

4. General Dynamics
5. General Lee (the Dodge Charger 1969 RT from Dukes of Hazzard)

(Sorry for General Lee, from the US Civil War)

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The U.K. gave us General Paresis and France, General Dismay. Wink
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Thanks Michel!

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