±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 637
Total: 637
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Photo Gallery
05: Your Account
06: Downloads
07: Community Forums
08: Your Account
09: Community Forums
10: Community Forums
11: Member Screenshots
12: Downloads
13: Community Forums
14: Photo Gallery
15: Community Forums
16: Home
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Community Forums
20: Photo Gallery
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Photo Gallery
24: Community Forums
25: Search
26: Photo Gallery
27: Home
28: Contact
29: Photo Gallery
30: Member Screenshots
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Member Screenshots
34: Community Forums
35: Downloads
36: Community Forums
37: Community Forums
38: Photo Gallery
39: Community Forums
40: Photo Gallery
41: Home
42: Photo Gallery
43: Home
44: Community Forums
45: Statistics
46: Community Forums
47: Home
48: Community Forums
49: News Archive
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Your Account
53: Member Screenshots
54: Community Forums
55: Photo Gallery
56: Community Forums
57: Member Screenshots
58: Photo Gallery
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: Photo Gallery
62: Downloads
63: Community Forums
64: Member Screenshots
65: Home
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: News Archive
70: Community Forums
71: Home
72: Photo Gallery
73: Community Forums
74: Community Forums
75: Community Forums
76: Downloads
77: Photo Gallery
78: Community Forums
79: Community Forums
80: Community Forums
81: Community Forums
82: Downloads
83: Community Forums
84: CPGlang
85: Home
86: Member Screenshots
87: Community Forums
88: Photo Gallery
89: Community Forums
90: Community Forums
91: Photo Gallery
92: Community Forums
93: CPGlang
94: Community Forums
95: Downloads
96: Downloads
97: Photo Gallery
98: Community Forums
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Downloads
102: Community Forums
103: Photo Gallery
104: Photo Gallery
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Community Forums
108: Community Forums
109: Downloads
110: Community Forums
111: Photo Gallery
112: Downloads
113: Community Forums
114: Community Forums
115: Photo Gallery
116: Community Forums
117: Member Screenshots
118: Community Forums
119: CPGlang
120: Community Forums
121: Photo Gallery
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: CPGlang
125: Community Forums
126: Community Forums
127: Downloads
128: Downloads
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Your Account
132: Photo Gallery
133: Home
134: Community Forums
135: Community Forums
136: Your Account
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Your Account
140: Photo Gallery
141: Home
142: Photo Gallery
143: Community Forums
144: Home
145: Community Forums
146: Community Forums
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Photo Gallery
150: News
151: Downloads
152: Community Forums
153: Photo Gallery
154: Community Forums
155: Community Forums
156: Downloads
157: Home
158: Home
159: Community Forums
160: Photo Gallery
161: Community Forums
162: Photo Gallery
163: Community Forums
164: Community Forums
165: Community Forums
166: Photo Gallery
167: Community Forums
168: Home
169: Home
170: Photo Gallery
171: Community Forums
172: Member Screenshots
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: CPGlang
176: Community Forums
177: Statistics
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Photo Gallery
183: Downloads
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Community Forums
187: Home
188: News Archive
189: Community Forums
190: Community Forums
191: Member Screenshots
192: Photo Gallery
193: Photo Gallery
194: Your Account
195: Photo Gallery
196: Member Screenshots
197: Community Forums
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Community Forums
202: Community Forums
203: Community Forums
204: Community Forums
205: Community Forums
206: Community Forums
207: Community Forums
208: Home
209: Community Forums
210: Community Forums
211: Community Forums
212: News Archive
213: Community Forums
214: Community Forums
215: CPGlang
216: Community Forums
217: Your Account
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Photo Gallery
221: Community Forums
222: Community Forums
223: Community Forums
224: CPGlang
225: Community Forums
226: Photo Gallery
227: Photo Gallery
228: Photo Gallery
229: Photo Gallery
230: Community Forums
231: Community Forums
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Home
235: Statistics
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: Community Forums
239: Community Forums
240: Photo Gallery
241: Community Forums
242: Your Account
243: Community Forums
244: Home
245: Home
246: Home
247: Community Forums
248: Community Forums
249: Downloads
250: Downloads
251: Home
252: Photo Gallery
253: Community Forums
254: Community Forums
255: Community Forums
256: Community Forums
257: Photo Gallery
258: Photo Gallery
259: Photo Gallery
260: Community Forums
261: Community Forums
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Community Forums
265: Photo Gallery
266: Photo Gallery
267: CPGlang
268: Community Forums
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Home
272: Photo Gallery
273: Community Forums
274: Community Forums
275: Downloads
276: Community Forums
277: Community Forums
278: Home
279: Downloads
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Statistics
283: Downloads
284: Community Forums
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Photo Gallery
289: Photo Gallery
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Photo Gallery
294: CPGlang
295: Home
296: Member Screenshots
297: Community Forums
298: Home
299: Community Forums
300: Photo Gallery
301: Community Forums
302: Community Forums
303: Photo Gallery
304: Community Forums
305: Community Forums
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Downloads
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: Statistics
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Photo Gallery
321: Photo Gallery
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Statistics
326: Community Forums
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Community Forums
330: Community Forums
331: Photo Gallery
332: CPGlang
333: Photo Gallery
334: CPGlang
335: Community Forums
336: Downloads
337: Community Forums
338: Photo Gallery
339: Your Account
340: Community Forums
341: Community Forums
342: Home
343: Community Forums
344: Community Forums
345: Community Forums
346: Community Forums
347: Photo Gallery
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Community Forums
351: Photo Gallery
352: Community Forums
353: Community Forums
354: Community Forums
355: Community Forums
356: Community Forums
357: Photo Gallery
358: Statistics
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Photo Gallery
363: Home
364: Community Forums
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Photo Gallery
368: Community Forums
369: Community Forums
370: Community Forums
371: Community Forums
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Community Forums
375: Community Forums
376: Home
377: Photo Gallery
378: Photo Gallery
379: Community Forums
380: Community Forums
381: Photo Gallery
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Home
385: Home
386: Home
387: Photo Gallery
388: Your Account
389: Member Screenshots
390: Home
391: Community Forums
392: Community Forums
393: Community Forums
394: Community Forums
395: Community Forums
396: Photo Gallery
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Home
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Home
405: Community Forums
406: Photo Gallery
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Community Forums
411: News Archive
412: Community Forums
413: Community Forums
414: Photo Gallery
415: Photo Gallery
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Home
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Community Forums
423: Community Forums
424: Statistics
425: Community Forums
426: Statistics
427: Home
428: Community Forums
429: Community Forums
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Photo Gallery
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Community Forums
437: Photo Gallery
438: Community Forums
439: News Archive
440: Home
441: Community Forums
442: Photo Gallery
443: Community Forums
444: Home
445: CPGlang
446: Photo Gallery
447: Community Forums
448: Photo Gallery
449: Downloads
450: Photo Gallery
451: Community Forums
452: Community Forums
453: Community Forums
454: Home
455: Community Forums
456: Home
457: Community Forums
458: Home
459: Downloads
460: Community Forums
461: Community Forums
462: Member Screenshots
463: Community Forums
464: Community Forums
465: Photo Gallery
466: Home
467: Community Forums
468: Community Forums
469: Home
470: Community Forums
471: Community Forums
472: Community Forums
473: Community Forums
474: Community Forums
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Statistics
478: News Archive
479: Downloads
480: Home
481: Home
482: CPGlang
483: Photo Gallery
484: Downloads
485: Photo Gallery
486: Community Forums
487: Photo Gallery
488: Photo Gallery
489: Statistics
490: Photo Gallery
491: Home
492: Community Forums
493: Community Forums
494: Home
495: Downloads
496: Member Screenshots
497: Photo Gallery
498: Home
499: Photo Gallery
500: Community Forums
501: Member Screenshots
502: Photo Gallery
503: Community Forums
504: Downloads
505: Community Forums
506: Community Forums
507: Photo Gallery
508: Community Forums
509: Your Account
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Photo Gallery
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Downloads
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Home
521: Community Forums
522: Your Account
523: Community Forums
524: Community Forums
525: Community Forums
526: Photo Gallery
527: Photo Gallery
528: Home
529: Home
530: Member Screenshots
531: Community Forums
532: Community Forums
533: Community Forums
534: Community Forums
535: Community Forums
536: Community Forums
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Community Forums
541: Community Forums
542: Home
543: Home
544: Photo Gallery
545: Home
546: Community Forums
547: Your Account
548: Community Forums
549: Your Account
550: CPGlang
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Home
554: Photo Gallery
555: Photo Gallery
556: Community Forums
557: Community Forums
558: Community Forums
559: Photo Gallery
560: Community Forums
561: Photo Gallery
562: Community Forums
563: Community Forums
564: Community Forums
565: Photo Gallery
566: Photo Gallery
567: Your Account
568: Community Forums
569: Community Forums
570: Community Forums
571: Community Forums
572: Downloads
573: Community Forums
574: Community Forums
575: Community Forums
576: Downloads
577: Community Forums
578: Photo Gallery
579: Home
580: Community Forums
581: Community Forums
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Community Forums
585: Community Forums
586: Community Forums
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Home
590: Downloads
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Community Forums
594: Community Forums
595: Your Account
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: Home
599: Photo Gallery
600: Home
601: Home
602: Community Forums
603: Community Forums
604: Community Forums
605: Photo Gallery
606: Community Forums
607: Community Forums
608: Community Forums
609: Community Forums
610: Community Forums
611: Community Forums
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Community Forums
616: Community Forums
617: Downloads
618: Downloads
619: CPGlang
620: Community Forums
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Photo Gallery
624: Community Forums
625: Community Forums
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: CPGlang
629: Community Forums
630: Photo Gallery
631: Community Forums
632: Statistics
633: Community Forums
634: Community Forums
635: Community Forums
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:26 am
Post subject: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

A new section on Surviving Panzers website was created:

All nationalities World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

the.shadock.free.fr/unarmored.html

For now with registers of:
- RSO
- Lorraine 37L
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:39 am
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

Soviet tracked vehicles:

STZ-5-NATI with "Katusha" Novomoskovsk, Tula Oblast (Russia)
pl.wikipedia.org/w/ind...0817162947

?-12 - Yaroslavl, Roslavskaya Oblast (Russia)
pomnite-nas.ru/mshow.p...s_OID=2555

Are this the only survived vehicles ?
Are there any half-tracks (ZIS-42, GAZ-60) survivors?
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:03 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

French tracked vehicles:

Citroen-Kegresse militar versions (not civil use)

Citroen-Kegresse C6 - Royal Militray Museum, Brussels (Belgium)
www.flickr.com/photos/...197798169/

Citroen Kegresse C4 P17 - Auto Museum, Monte Carlo, Monaco
www.flickr.com/photos/...711577155/

Citroen Kegresse C6 - Private collection (France)
tracks.forumactif.com/...-t1923.htm

Citroen Kegresse C6 - Adam Rudnicki collection (Poland)
img122.imageshack.us/i...6mts1.jpg/

Citroen-Kegresse C6 - unknown location
www.flickr.com/photos/...343486532/


Somua MCL

Somua MCL - Musée des Blindés, Saumur (France)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...mur_01.jpg


Unic P107

Unic P107 - Musée des Blindés, Saumur (France)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...Saumur.jpg

Unic P107 – Victory Park at Poklonnaya Gora, Moscow (Russia)
svsm.org/gallery/Victo...m/IMGP1546
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:06 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

Big register of civil and other versions of Citroen-Kegresse

kegresse.dk/images/01_10_2009.pdf
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:26 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

The only survivng T28 Willy's half-tracked Jeep.

www.milweb.net/features/jeep.php

Ford V8 Maultier
[img]www.img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/Panzerserra/Ford%203000%20Maultier/maultier02.jpg[img]
(Victory Museum?)
(Also here! www.com-central.net/in...p;t=12245)


Sdkfz4, unknown location.
reocities.com/Athens/A...racks.html


Ford V8

Opel (Victory Museum, so same as the "Ford V8" above?)

odkrywca.pl/opel-mault...03953.html


Sinsheim (probably one for the Sdkfz 11 file?)


One of Wheatcroft's SWS (Armoured?)
www.pietvanhees.nl/sws/chassis.htm


(Red-crossitis strikes!
Back to top
View user's profile
Hanno_Spoelstra
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jun 04, 2006
Posts: 185

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:15 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

Regarding Maultiers, please bear in mind today quite a few have been copied from regular 4x2 trucks added with the running gear from a Universal Carrier.

The Maultier track system was patterned on the Carden-Lloyd system. Now, was the first Maultier converted using parts from Bren/Scout/Universal Carriers or Vickers Light Tanks captured at Dunkirk? The Vickers Light Tanks used two double-wheel bogies too...

The Germans must have manufactured parts for the conversion of trucks as of the Ford V3000S Maultier alone some 14,000 were built, with another 4,000 or so of the Opel Blitz variant. Much larger numbers than could be catered for by cannibalisation of captured British AFVs.

Also, there are engineering differences in track, sprocket and road wheels (see picture - source). For example, a Maultier road wheel is much wider and of entirely different construction than the standard Universal Carrier road wheel - not a surprise when you know Pz.I/II track was used (instead of Carrier track like popular belief has it). Possibly only the bogie casting was copied, although I wonder if that would pass a gründlich scrutiny by German engineers - remember the answer the German Army got after asking German industry to copy the Soviet T34 tank?
Back to top
View user's profile
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:31 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

And what about this?



Does it qualify as Maultier Laughing

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:28 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

Certainly a Mule!
I'd guess if it was cobbled together before May 8th 1945, then it qualifies.
Back to top
View user's profile
Michel_Krauss
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 953
Location: Zuid-Holland, The Netherlands
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:50 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

well it is an interesting combination

could be something for P-O repro list Mr. Green

Michel

_________________
I'm Not Crazy, I'm Just Not You
Back to top
View user's profile
the_shadock
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 27, 2006
Posts: 2865
Location: Normandy, France
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:37 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

- Massimo_Foti
And what about this?



Does it qualify as Maultier Laughing

Massimo


I would call it a Maultier-White, or rather a Mercedes-White...

P-O

_________________
soldat_ryan @ hotmail.com

Looking for photos of Sherman manufacturer's plates
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Massimo_Foti
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 5397
Location: Lugano, Switzerland
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:25 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

- Pzkpfw-e
I'd guess if it was cobbled together before May 8th 1945, then it qualifies.


That's the main question, but I don't have an aswer, neither its owner has

Massimo
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:55 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

Any army used them ?


Linn 4-28 10 Ton Half-Track from 1930
www.flickr.com/photos/...370813523/

Linn from 1927
www.flickr.com/photos/...695596929/

Linn
www.flickr.com/photos/...671551063/
Back to top
View user's profile
Pzkpfw-e
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2010
Posts: 1202

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:00 pm
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

Any "YA-12" still surviving?
Here's a link ro a Russian web page 2leep.com/bar.php?url=.../ja-12.htm that shows a pair of B&W pictures of one mounted on a concrete plynth, with a block of flats in the background.
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:12 am
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

- Pzkpfw-e
Any "YA-12" still surviving?
Here's a link ro a Russian web page 2leep.com/bar.php?url=.../ja-12.htm that shows a pair of B&W pictures of one mounted on a concrete plynth, with a block of flats in the background.


That are old photos of the YA-12 from Yaroslavl, Roslavskaya Oblast (Russia)
Back to top
View user's profile
bialy-r
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: May 06, 2009
Posts: 1233
Location: POLAND
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:58 am
Post subject: Re: World War 2 tracked and unarmored vehicles

Second YA-12 - Estonia ?


deadmobil.narod.ru/estonia.html
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 4
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum