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Neil_Baumgardner

- Doug_Kibbey

I'm late to the discussion, and maybe I missed something, but what is that "armored station wagon" on the far right?

That's a Peacekeeper II prototype - an attempt by Textron a decade or two ago to update the Peacekeeper / Ranger (used by USAF and law enforcement) to modern automotive standards for law enforcement use...

Neil

Neil_Baumgardner

- panamadan

Is the Stingray the same as the XM8?
Dan

No. The Stingray was Cadillac Gage's offering for the Armored Gun System (AGS) program. XM8 was FMC's offering.

Neil

Doug_Kibbey

I'm late to the discussion, and maybe I missed something, but what is that "armored station wagon" on the far right?

panamadan · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 174

Is the Stingray the same as the XM8?
Dan

JimWeb

And then again it could be the TMLS-150

An Arrowpoint Dragoon hull with ASV/M1117 guts...

Neil_Baumgardner

Ah, okay.... Here's why I'd say its more of a V-150 than a Dragoon:

1) Upper front hull. In the V-150 there is a drop from the crew compartment to the hull. On the Dragoon the diagonal line from the hull to the top of the crew compartment continues without such a major drop/break.
2) The Dragoon's driver windshield vision blocks are three-piece (modified from the M113's blocks?). The V-150 has more conventional vision blocks.
3) Overall, the Commando features smoother, cleaner lines. The Dragoon has harder, sharper edges/lines.

Overall, I'd call it a V-150 Commando - albeit perhaps with some Dragoon features (double doors). Although this could well be a Cadillac Gage prototype feature that wasnt initially used in production Commandos but later re-appeared on the Dragoon...

Neil

ossie · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Aug 20, 2006 Posts: 81

neil
thank you just what the doctor ordered ossie

JimWeb

- Neil_Baumgardner

I must say (comparing to the pics on your site), the upper hull doesnt look right to me for a Dragoon and looks more like a V-150 but perhaps you are seeing something I'm not... Or perhaps its some sort of prototype inbetween?

Neil

Yeah I think it is as well. The double doors are an indicator for a Dragoon but I think that's the first one I have seen with them on both sides.

Dontos

I wonder if they are looking for an experienced 'Restoration Specialist'.....??

Hmmmmmm Wink

Regards
Don

Neil_Baumgardner

I must say (comparing to the pics on your site), the upper hull doesnt look right to me for a Dragoon and looks more like a V-150 but perhaps you are seeing something I'm not... Or perhaps its some sort of prototype inbetween?

Neil

JimWeb

Not really Cadillac-gage produced all of Arrowpoints prototypes apparently.

Neil_Baumgardner

Really??? If so its in a very odd place...

Neil

JimWeb

The 'commando' is a Dragoon I suspect...

Neil_Baumgardner

Dave,
Not sure how much I can really help, but I'll shoot you a PM.

Neil

HellonwheelsV100 · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Jan 15, 2007 Posts: 67

Neil-
Thanks for posting these! I would love to talk to your contact if he/she would be interested. Have several cad gage questions.

Dave C

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