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Here is the Luna:

Massimo

Doug_Kibbey

- Koluchiy

Interior in bad condition means that the vehicle was not used for the last many years. So the chance that it is preserved in original condition is higher.

I agree, which is why it's my impression that the one in Bucharest is in original (if not complete) condition (recognizing that the turret is not original to the hull, either). I don't think either ever saw a single erg of energy expended toward preservation or restoration.

Massimo_Foti

- Koluchiy

Interior in bad condition means that the vehicle was not used for the last many years. So the chance that it is preserved in original condition is higher.

It could also missing many parts and be a victim of internal explosion (this seems the case for the StuG III in Thun).
Anyway, I'll take a note about it and see if next year I will be able to do anything. Just don't hold your breath, because getting permissions will not be easy.

Massimo

Koluchiy · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: May 19, 2009 Posts: 178

- Massimo_Foti

The only Pz IV I could get access in my area is the one in Thun's Panzermuseum:
www.preservedtanks.com...p;Select=4

I plan to go there next year in spring. I could try to obtain permission to shot the interiors, but you should consider:

1) It's a military area and getting permissions could be very difficult
2) The tank is in very poor conditions, it miss tracks and has some Pz III wheels. I can imagine the interior isn't in a great shape either (I was told StuG III interior was pretty bad)
3) It's not going to happen before May 2011

If you think it may be worth for you, I will add this to my to-do list

Massimo

Interior in bad condition means that the vehicle was not used for the last many years. So the chance that it is preserved in original condition is higher.

I can wait for May 2011 because I have no other chanse to obtain images from that tank.

Thank you in advance.

Massimo_Foti

I covered more than 100 major artifacts myself (vehicles, artillery and planes) and I know for sure I've missed many. With 200 shots you just scratch the surface.

I would put this museum in the same class as Lesany and Cecchignola, very large, amazing collections that deserve more visibility.

Massimo

JimWeb

I've started posting general shots of stuff in that museum on JED - I haven't finished yet but I have passed the 200 mark already...

Massimo_Foti

The only Pz IV I could get access in my area is the one in Thun's Panzermuseum:
www.preservedtanks.com...4&Select=4

I plan to go there next year in spring. I could try to obtain permission to shot the interiors, but you should consider:

1) It's a military area and getting permissions could be very difficult
2) The tank is in very poor conditions, it miss tracks and has some Pz III wheels. I can imagine the interior isn't in a great shape either (I was told StuG III interior was pretty bad)
3) It's not going to happen before May 2011

If you think it may be worth for you, I will add this to my to-do list

Massimo

Koluchiy · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: May 19, 2009 Posts: 178

Big thanks!

Massimo_Foti

Sorry, I don't have any interior pictures.

Doug got permission from the Museum and got some Pz IV's interiors. He posted a few shots here:
www.com-central.net/in...ic&t=11067

Maybe he has more pictures.

Hope it could help

Massimo

Koluchiy · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: May 19, 2009 Posts: 178

Looking for interior photos of Pz.IV Ausf.J from this museum.

Can anybody help?

Massimo_Foti

- JimWeb

Must go back sometime and finish doing all the artillery pieces... there are way too many!

Yes, planes and AFVs are doable in just one day, but the artillery is overwhelming. The most impressive collection I ever seen, not only for the numbers, but for the diversity of models and sources

One day I will go back and get more shots. I think next time I will follow Doug's advice and pick a season when less foliage is around, but this means facing more bad weather risk. This time I preferred to be safe.

Massimo

JimWeb

- Massimo_Foti

- JimWeb

Sometimes your batteries go flat when your doing a 60-shot walkaround of your 18th artillery piece and you have to use a backup....

Time to invest into some spare batteries

Or not leave them at home....

Must go back sometime and finish doing all the artillery pieces... there are way too many!

Massimo_Foti

- JimWeb

Sometimes your batteries go flat when your doing a 60-shot walkaround of your 18th artillery piece and you have to use a backup....

Time to invest into some spare batteries

- JimWeb

Trying to explain why your carrying a bag full of SD Cards for it at airport security is always interesting though - I suspect they think I'm some sort of smuggler...

I was somewhat concerned about that, since I carried the complete arsenal inside my heaviest backpack. You can see the model here, and yes, the inside looked more or less like the one in the picture:
www.tamrac.com/5588.htm

In the end I had no problem with security checks or even the armed guards at the Museum. I guess the look in my face show I am a trustworthy person

Massimo

JimWeb

- Massimo_Foti

BTW Jim, you went to Bucharest with the Olympus SP-510 UZ and left the Nikon D3 at home???

Massimo

Sometimes your batteries go flat when your doing a 60-shot walkaround of your 18th artillery piece and you have to use a backup....

Actually my preferred camera of use is my trusty old Fujifilm Finepix - its much more convenient for those museums where they tend to frown on you taking photographs without an expensive permit.

Trying to explain why your carrying a bag full of SD Cards for it at airport security is always interesting though - I suspect they think I'm some sort of smuggler...

Massimo_Foti

So it was there already in May 2008. Wonder if Doug have seen it as well. It's quite a large piece of hardware that doesn't go unnoticed

Massimo

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