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Our plans and trips to military museums
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:05 am
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- TrevorLarkum
I'm mostly after serial numbers, e.g.
UID 1711: M4 on trailer - might need some creative work with a camera on a pole!
UID 1709: M4A2 (105)
UID 1710: M4A3 (105)
UID 1716: M32
UID 1718: M48 AVLB
UID 1721: T-34
UID 1722: T-55
UID 1705: Sexton (usually on rear hull just below starting handle hole)

Any pictures of the M4A1 outside would also be good.

Anything you get is appreciated!


I've found the Serial Number of the M4A4 on the trailer, it is SN 5657 :


There is no M4A2(105), both are M4A3(105). Note that I don't think that any M4A2 was built with a 105mm howitzer, only M4 and M4A3.
During my last visit in September 2011, I've tried to find the SN on all of the Shermans, but I was only able to find it on the M4A4 on the trailer, the M4A4 Crab (SN 5230), the Baldwin M4 75mm (SN 15499) and that's it.

The M48 AVBL could have the SN 4450, but I'm not 100% sure.

One has to scratch the paint on the rear tow lugs of the M32B2, because I've seen traces of the serial but they can't be read with all the paint currently on them..

If you try to look on some of the M4A3(105) Sherman tow lugs, there is some grease on some of them, and one has to be careful..

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:25 pm
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What date is this party at Overloon going on, maybe I can join you guy's there?
Michel (the other one Wink )


no problem with the names I think, we both will take a name tag

one with "Michel" and the other one also "Michel" Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:30 pm
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The current plan is to be there on Friday 6th July. Having you as well would be great!

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:06 pm
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What date is this party at Overloon going on, maybe I can join you guy's there?
Michel (the other one Wink )
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:37 pm
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I guess everything in Overloon is already well know, or is anybody still looking for some specific picture or data? There will be three of us, for a fully day, with at least 6 cameras, so don't hesitate to ask :-)

Massimo


Yes please! This is what I have so far:

Overloon

I'm mostly after serial numbers, e.g.
UID 1711: M4 on trailer - might need some creative work with a camera on a pole!
UID 1709: M4A2 (105)
UID 1710: M4A3 (105)
UID 1716: M32
UID 1718: M48 AVLB
UID 1721: T-34
UID 1722: T-55
UID 1705: Sexton (usually on rear hull just below starting handle hole)

Any pictures of the M4A1 outside would also be good.

Anything you get is appreciated!

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:13 pm
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only 6 cameras .... that's not much Mr. Green

Massimo, how many are you planning to take along then Wink


Usually I have 2 cameras, sometimes 3 Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:52 pm
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I guess everything in Overloon is already well know, or is anybody still looking for some specific picture or data? There will be three of us, for a fully day, with at least 6 cameras, so don't hesitate to ask Smile

Massimo


only 6 cameras .... that's not much Mr. Green

Massimo, how many are you planning to take along then Wink

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 8:27 am
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I guess everything in Overloon is already well know, or is anybody still looking for some specific picture or data? There will be three of us, for a fully day, with at least 6 cameras, so don't hesitate to ask Smile

Massimo
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:23 am
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A long way from the CBI/Pacific Theatres & nothing really to learn from Japanese armour?
There are precious few Japanese aircraft preserved in Europe too, the only UK ones I can think of are a Zero cockpit, Ki100, Dinah & a Zero wreck.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:09 pm
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that's true ..... are there any other Japanese tanks in Europe .... :?
(I know that there are some in Kubinka - Russia (stil part of Europe), however they are hard to get to)


Michel, I've sent you a copy of my Preserved Japanese Tanks eBook - but you're right, there aren't many in Europe.

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Walter and Michel kindly offered to pick me up at Arnhem and visit Overloon. I am sure we will have a busy day over there Smile

I still want to give Delft a try. Even if I am not sure I can get any decent pictures from there.

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It's dark there, so you'll get to try out your low-light techniques!


I see. Walter also reports flash isn't allowed, making things even more challenging Shocked
I wish I have a Canon 5D... I am thinking about getting one, but I am afraid it's not going to happen that soon (price is high and availability low in Switzerland)

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:20 am
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that's true ..... are there any other Japanese tanks in Europe .... Confused
(I know that there are some in Kubinka - Russia (stil part of Europe), however they are hard to get to)


Type 95 Ha-Go at Bovington:
www.flickr.com/photos/...270470716/

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:41 pm
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I know, I've seen the list of vehicles. Still Delft has a Type 97 TE-KE and you don't get opportunity to see that many Japanese tanks in Europe.

Massimo


that's true ..... are there any other Japanese tanks in Europe .... Confused
(I know that there are some in Kubinka - Russia (stil part of Europe), however they are hard to get to)

Concerning the date, no problem to arrange something during that periode.
I have nothing planned for that time.

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True.

It's dark there, so you'll get to try out your low-light techniques!

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