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Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Thun. Panzermuseum

Ex-Canadian Centurion with pretty cool camo:

Centurion Mk III by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Thun. Panzermuseum

- Costas_TT

Yes, the 4K3FA and the 4K4FA, in many variants, too: APC, mortar carrier, ambulance, signals, command and let's not forget the SK-105 and the Greif ARV. They were built by Steyr, but they were of Saurer design.

I see now, I assumed they were from Steyr, never realized before they were designed by Saurer. Thanks!

Massimo

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

Did any tracked Saurer vehicle ever entered service with Austrian Army?

Yes, the 4K3FA and the 4K4FA, in many variants, too: APC, mortar carrier, ambulance, signals, command and let's not forget the SK-105 and the Greif ARV. They were built by Steyr, but they were of Saurer design.
And the Oerlikon 80mm rocket launcher turret has been applied mostly experimentally to a variety of vehicles: Tornado, Saurer, Piranha, Grenadier, VXB, HS-30, and the list goes on. The US Navy even trialed it on a Nasty PTF in Vietnam.

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:30 am Post subject: Re: Thun. Panzermuseum

Interesting! Did any tracked Saurer vehicle ever entered service with Austrian Army?

Incidentally you can see the same turret on a Mowag's prototype in Full:
www.flickr.com/photos/...4088553191

Massimo

Costas_TT · ***Power User*** Offline Joined: Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 387

- Massimo_Foti

- Costas_TT

I will later go over the Pirat and Tartaruga photos. Thanks for those, by the way.

If you are in that sort of things you may want to take a look at this vehicle in Wien too:
www.flickr.com/photos/...9220689906

As for Mowag, nothing beat Full Militarmuseum:
www.flickr.com/photos/...622378309/

The shots on Flickr were just "portraits", but I have plenty of details and walk-around pictures too. If you are looking for something specific, just let me know. It may take a some time because most files are still in RAW format, not JPEG, but I am always glad to help a fellow modeller/afv enthusiast

Massimo

The portrait shots will do just fine for now. What piqued my curiosity was the plated over TC position and the new roof plate behind it on the Vienna museum vehicle. I believe it was a 4K3FA based carrier for the Oerlikon 3 Z 8 Dla 804/805 RA twin 80mm rocket launcher:

Source: Wikipedia and www.bhi.at/bericht_spzsaurer.htm

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Thun. Panzermuseum

I was reading Chris old blog entries and spotted this:
wheelsandtracks.blogsp...-thun.html

Turret's markings correspond to this:

LTL-H M-78587 by Massimo Foti, on Flickr

Massimo_Foti · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Thun. Panzermuseum

- Costas_TT

I will later go over the Pirat and Tartaruga photos. Thanks for those, by the way.

If you are in that sort of things you may want to take a look at this vehicle in Wien too:
www.flickr.com/photos/...9220689906

As for Mowag, nothing beat Full Militarmuseum:
www.flickr.com/photos/...622378309/

The shots on Flickr were just "portraits", but I have plenty of details and walk-around pictures too. If you are looking for something specific, just let me know. It may take a some time because most files are still in RAW format, not JPEG, but I am always glad to help a fellow modeller/afv enthusiast

Massimo