±Recent Visitors

Recent Visitors to Com-Central!

±User Info-big


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: cgsimpson
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 6645

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 683
Total: 683
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: CPGlang
02: Community Forums
03: Downloads
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Community Forums
09: Community Forums
10: Member Screenshots
11: Community Forums
12: Community Forums
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Member Screenshots
16: Your Account
17: Community Forums
18: Home
19: Home
20: Community Forums
21: Community Forums
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: CPGlang
28: Home
29: Downloads
30: Photo Gallery
31: Home
32: Community Forums
33: Community Forums
34: Community Forums
35: Home
36: Photo Gallery
37: Community Forums
38: Home
39: Member Screenshots
40: Photo Gallery
41: Community Forums
42: Community Forums
43: Photo Gallery
44: Community Forums
45: Home
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Photo Gallery
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Photo Gallery
52: Home
53: Photo Gallery
54: Community Forums
55: Home
56: Community Forums
57: Downloads
58: Your Account
59: Home
60: Community Forums
61: News Archive
62: Your Account
63: Downloads
64: Community Forums
65: Home
66: Home
67: Community Forums
68: Statistics
69: Community Forums
70: Community Forums
71: Downloads
72: Home
73: Community Forums
74: Home
75: Community Forums
76: Community Forums
77: Home
78: Community Forums
79: Your Account
80: Community Forums
81: Photo Gallery
82: Community Forums
83: Community Forums
84: Photo Gallery
85: Photo Gallery
86: Community Forums
87: Community Forums
88: CPGlang
89: Your Account
90: Community Forums
91: Community Forums
92: Photo Gallery
93: Community Forums
94: Photo Gallery
95: Statistics
96: Community Forums
97: Your Account
98: News
99: Community Forums
100: Community Forums
101: Community Forums
102: Community Forums
103: Community Forums
104: Community Forums
105: Home
106: Photo Gallery
107: Home
108: Community Forums
109: Community Forums
110: Photo Gallery
111: Community Forums
112: Community Forums
113: Community Forums
114: Downloads
115: Home
116: Community Forums
117: Community Forums
118: Photo Gallery
119: Home
120: Community Forums
121: Community Forums
122: Home
123: Community Forums
124: Community Forums
125: Community Forums
126: Member Screenshots
127: Community Forums
128: Community Forums
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Community Forums
132: Community Forums
133: Community Forums
134: Photo Gallery
135: Community Forums
136: Member Screenshots
137: Community Forums
138: Community Forums
139: Photo Gallery
140: Community Forums
141: Home
142: Community Forums
143: Community Forums
144: Your Account
145: Community Forums
146: Downloads
147: Community Forums
148: Community Forums
149: Community Forums
150: Community Forums
151: Community Forums
152: Community Forums
153: Photo Gallery
154: Photo Gallery
155: Home
156: Downloads
157: Community Forums
158: Community Forums
159: Home
160: Photo Gallery
161: Community Forums
162: Community Forums
163: Community Forums
164: Photo Gallery
165: Community Forums
166: Photo Gallery
167: Member Screenshots
168: Downloads
169: Community Forums
170: Photo Gallery
171: Community Forums
172: Community Forums
173: Community Forums
174: Community Forums
175: Home
176: Community Forums
177: Community Forums
178: Community Forums
179: Community Forums
180: Community Forums
181: Community Forums
182: Community Forums
183: Home
184: Community Forums
185: Community Forums
186: Your Account
187: Community Forums
188: Community Forums
189: Home
190: Photo Gallery
191: Community Forums
192: Community Forums
193: Home
194: Statistics
195: Community Forums
196: Community Forums
197: Downloads
198: Community Forums
199: Community Forums
200: Community Forums
201: Home
202: Photo Gallery
203: Community Forums
204: Photo Gallery
205: Community Forums
206: Photo Gallery
207: Community Forums
208: Community Forums
209: Home
210: Photo Gallery
211: Community Forums
212: Community Forums
213: Community Forums
214: Member Screenshots
215: Home
216: Home
217: Photo Gallery
218: Community Forums
219: Community Forums
220: Community Forums
221: Member Screenshots
222: Community Forums
223: Home
224: Community Forums
225: Home
226: Community Forums
227: Community Forums
228: Community Forums
229: Home
230: Statistics
231: Downloads
232: Community Forums
233: Community Forums
234: Home
235: Photo Gallery
236: Community Forums
237: Community Forums
238: CPGlang
239: Photo Gallery
240: News
241: Community Forums
242: Home
243: Photo Gallery
244: Home
245: Home
246: Community Forums
247: Community Forums
248: Home
249: Community Forums
250: Member Screenshots
251: Community Forums
252: Photo Gallery
253: CPGlang
254: Member Screenshots
255: Downloads
256: Photo Gallery
257: Member Screenshots
258: Community Forums
259: Community Forums
260: Community Forums
261: Photo Gallery
262: Community Forums
263: Community Forums
264: Home
265: Home
266: Community Forums
267: Community Forums
268: Photo Gallery
269: Community Forums
270: Community Forums
271: Community Forums
272: Home
273: Community Forums
274: Member Screenshots
275: Community Forums
276: Community Forums
277: Home
278: Community Forums
279: Home
280: Community Forums
281: Community Forums
282: Home
283: Community Forums
284: Downloads
285: Community Forums
286: Community Forums
287: Community Forums
288: Community Forums
289: Community Forums
290: Community Forums
291: Community Forums
292: Community Forums
293: Community Forums
294: Community Forums
295: Photo Gallery
296: Community Forums
297: Community Forums
298: Community Forums
299: Photo Gallery
300: Community Forums
301: Home
302: Photo Gallery
303: Community Forums
304: Community Forums
305: Home
306: Community Forums
307: Community Forums
308: Community Forums
309: Community Forums
310: Home
311: Community Forums
312: Community Forums
313: Community Forums
314: Community Forums
315: CPGlang
316: Community Forums
317: Community Forums
318: Community Forums
319: Community Forums
320: Community Forums
321: Photo Gallery
322: Community Forums
323: Community Forums
324: Community Forums
325: Community Forums
326: Photo Gallery
327: Community Forums
328: Community Forums
329: Downloads
330: Photo Gallery
331: CPGlang
332: Home
333: Home
334: Community Forums
335: Photo Gallery
336: Community Forums
337: Downloads
338: Community Forums
339: Home
340: Home
341: Photo Gallery
342: Community Forums
343: Member Screenshots
344: Your Account
345: Home
346: Photo Gallery
347: Community Forums
348: Community Forums
349: Community Forums
350: Member Screenshots
351: Downloads
352: Photo Gallery
353: Community Forums
354: Downloads
355: Photo Gallery
356: Home
357: Photo Gallery
358: Home
359: Community Forums
360: Community Forums
361: Community Forums
362: Community Forums
363: Community Forums
364: Photo Gallery
365: Community Forums
366: Community Forums
367: Community Forums
368: Downloads
369: Photo Gallery
370: Home
371: Home
372: Community Forums
373: Community Forums
374: Home
375: Photo Gallery
376: Community Forums
377: Community Forums
378: Home
379: Photo Gallery
380: Member Screenshots
381: Community Forums
382: Community Forums
383: Community Forums
384: Community Forums
385: Community Forums
386: CPGlang
387: Photo Gallery
388: Home
389: Community Forums
390: Community Forums
391: Home
392: Home
393: Photo Gallery
394: Home
395: Photo Gallery
396: Home
397: Community Forums
398: Community Forums
399: Community Forums
400: Community Forums
401: Community Forums
402: Community Forums
403: Community Forums
404: Downloads
405: Community Forums
406: Community Forums
407: Community Forums
408: Community Forums
409: Community Forums
410: Downloads
411: Photo Gallery
412: Community Forums
413: Home
414: Home
415: Home
416: Community Forums
417: Community Forums
418: Community Forums
419: Community Forums
420: Community Forums
421: Community Forums
422: Downloads
423: Photo Gallery
424: Member Screenshots
425: Community Forums
426: Community Forums
427: Community Forums
428: Photo Gallery
429: Photo Gallery
430: Community Forums
431: Community Forums
432: Photo Gallery
433: Community Forums
434: Community Forums
435: Community Forums
436: Photo Gallery
437: Community Forums
438: Home
439: Community Forums
440: Community Forums
441: Community Forums
442: Community Forums
443: Community Forums
444: Community Forums
445: Photo Gallery
446: Community Forums
447: Photo Gallery
448: Home
449: Home
450: Community Forums
451: Community Forums
452: Photo Gallery
453: Community Forums
454: Community Forums
455: Photo Gallery
456: Community Forums
457: Statistics
458: Home
459: Community Forums
460: Home
461: Community Forums
462: CPGlang
463: Community Forums
464: CPGlang
465: Community Forums
466: Community Forums
467: Photo Gallery
468: Community Forums
469: Home
470: Home
471: Member Screenshots
472: Home
473: Community Forums
474: Photo Gallery
475: Community Forums
476: Community Forums
477: Community Forums
478: Photo Gallery
479: Photo Gallery
480: Community Forums
481: Community Forums
482: Downloads
483: Community Forums
484: Photo Gallery
485: Home
486: Community Forums
487: Community Forums
488: Community Forums
489: Community Forums
490: Community Forums
491: Community Forums
492: Photo Gallery
493: Photo Gallery
494: Community Forums
495: Photo Gallery
496: Community Forums
497: Home
498: Community Forums
499: Photo Gallery
500: Downloads
501: Downloads
502: Community Forums
503: Home
504: Home
505: Photo Gallery
506: Photo Gallery
507: Home
508: Community Forums
509: Statistics
510: Community Forums
511: Community Forums
512: Community Forums
513: Community Forums
514: Community Forums
515: Community Forums
516: Community Forums
517: Community Forums
518: Community Forums
519: Community Forums
520: Community Forums
521: Community Forums
522: Home
523: Community Forums
524: CPGlang
525: Community Forums
526: Community Forums
527: Photo Gallery
528: Community Forums
529: Community Forums
530: Community Forums
531: CPGlang
532: News
533: Community Forums
534: Home
535: Photo Gallery
536: Home
537: Community Forums
538: Community Forums
539: Community Forums
540: Home
541: Photo Gallery
542: Community Forums
543: Community Forums
544: Community Forums
545: Community Forums
546: Community Forums
547: Community Forums
548: Community Forums
549: Community Forums
550: Community Forums
551: Community Forums
552: Community Forums
553: Home
554: Community Forums
555: Community Forums
556: Community Forums
557: Photo Gallery
558: Home
559: CPGlang
560: Community Forums
561: Community Forums
562: Photo Gallery
563: Photo Gallery
564: Community Forums
565: Photo Gallery
566: Home
567: Community Forums
568: Photo Gallery
569: Community Forums
570: Downloads
571: Community Forums
572: Downloads
573: Community Forums
574: Home
575: Community Forums
576: Photo Gallery
577: Community Forums
578: Home
579: Community Forums
580: Photo Gallery
581: Photo Gallery
582: Community Forums
583: Community Forums
584: Home
585: Community Forums
586: Home
587: Community Forums
588: Community Forums
589: Photo Gallery
590: Home
591: Community Forums
592: Community Forums
593: Home
594: Community Forums
595: Photo Gallery
596: Community Forums
597: Community Forums
598: News
599: Community Forums
600: Photo Gallery
601: Home
602: CPGlang
603: Community Forums
604: Statistics
605: Member Screenshots
606: Community Forums
607: Member Screenshots
608: Home
609: Community Forums
610: Home
611: Member Screenshots
612: Community Forums
613: Community Forums
614: Community Forums
615: Downloads
616: Community Forums
617: Home
618: Photo Gallery
619: CPGlang
620: CPGlang
621: Community Forums
622: Community Forums
623: Community Forums
624: Photo Gallery
625: Photo Gallery
626: Community Forums
627: Community Forums
628: Photo Gallery
629: Community Forums
630: Photo Gallery
631: Downloads
632: Search
633: Home
634: Community Forums
635: Downloads
636: Community Forums
637: Community Forums
638: Community Forums
639: Community Forums
640: Community Forums
641: Photo Gallery
642: Home
643: Community Forums
644: Community Forums
645: Community Forums
646: Community Forums
647: Downloads
648: Home
649: Downloads
650: Community Forums
651: Community Forums
652: Community Forums
653: Your Account
654: Photo Gallery
655: Photo Gallery
656: Community Forums
657: Community Forums
658: Community Forums
659: Photo Gallery
660: Community Forums
661: Statistics
662: Community Forums
663: Home
664: Home
665: Community Forums
666: Community Forums
667: Community Forums
668: Community Forums
669: Home
670: Home
671: Community Forums
672: Community Forums
673: Community Forums
674: Photo Gallery
675: Community Forums
676: Home
677: Community Forums
678: Community Forums
679: Community Forums
680: Member Screenshots
681: Community Forums
682: Home
683: Community Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page     Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:13 am
Post subject: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...


Dontos, Is there anything special about this M1. Being a Mortar Magot, I dont know squat about M1's, (but I am learning quickly about older tanks!). There are at least three other M1's on post on display. They are at East Gate, and both the HQ's of 1st Cav and 4th ID. where do I find special markings, serial numbers, etc... I plan to photograph and post them eventually if they are of any signifigance.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Gomez75
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jul 21, 2006
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

The M1E1 was the test platform for the Rhienmattal 120mm Gun. It is basically a vanilla M1 fitted with the German Gun. Or so I've read. About ten were converted.
Back to top
View user's profile
Sabot
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 380
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

I remember when they made the sign around 1994. It was pointed out then that the sign was in error and the M1E1 is the prototype for the M1A1. The sign leads one to believe that the M1E1 is a prototype of the initial M1.

The M1E1 was an M1IP with the 120mm.

_________________
RobG
Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:52 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

Does the M1 have an area where the serial number is stamped into it? There are at least 4 M1's on display here on the post. Each DIV HQ's had one, East Gate has one, and so does the 1st Cav museum. Is it me, or do new tanks not have the prominent "USA" numbers of tanks past?

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:08 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

I want to keep this one alive because I want to know where to find the serial number on an M1. There are 4 on post that are on display that I know of. Three tan and one green. Also, anyone know where an M2 Bradley has its serial numbers?

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Hellfish6
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
Posts: 151
Location: Orlando
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:31 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

Why do people want to know serial numbers on vehicles? (Serious question)
Back to top
View user's profile
Roy_A_Lingle
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1997
Location: El Paso & Ft Bliss, Texas
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:14 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

HI HF6! Hi Folks!

- Hellfish6

Why do people want to know serial numbers on vehicles? (Serious question)


Helps with tracking the history of many of the different types of AFVs. Helps with keeping up with a vehicle when it is moved from one spot to another. Helps those who are trying to get and kept a count on the number of vehicles remaining.

Some of the members who hang out here find that type of info helpful with their research.

Sgt, Scouts Out!

_________________
"You can never have too much reconnaissance."
General G.S. Patton Jr.
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Joe_D
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
Posts: 2066
Location: Razorback Country
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:29 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

Jeff,
If they haven't been changed out the skirts will have a metal plate welded on each one with the serial number. The static model tanks I've seen usually had the ballistic skirts (1 and 2 left, 1,2,3 and 4 right)replaced with mock ups. A more reliable source is on the rear grill doors on earlier models, same type of plate. To the left of the right tail light they would stamp the number and also the registration from what I remember. Serial numbers would start with an "L" for Lima and "D" for Detroit. Majority are then followed by 4 or 5 digits, A1's ending around 13000 from what I remember. Don't use the skirt method for late model A2's since they used the old 105 hulls and the skirts retained the original numbers on all the ones I've seen. Rebuilds had the same front headlight gaurds as the 105 tanks where as the originals had the angle gaurds like the M1A1. Hope this helps. I will check the M1's here later and verify the locations. Just gotta be able to stay on the Net.

Joe D


Joe D
Back to top
View user's profile Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

Thanks Joe, I'll try and check the M1 pictured above today and see if this location is correct.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
bsmart
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 23, 2006
Posts: 2523
Location: Central Maryland
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- Roy_A_Lingle
HI HF6! Hi Folks!

- Hellfish6

Why do people want to know serial numbers on vehicles? (Serious question)


Helps with tracking the history of many of the different types of AFVs. Helps with keeping up with a vehicle when it is moved from one spot to another. Helps those who are trying to get and kept a count on the number of vehicles remaining.

Some of the members who hang out here find that type of info helpful with their research.

Sgt, Scouts Out!


Does anyone keep serial numbers of vehicles they crewed or worked on?

I know everytime I see a picture of an F-15 I try and see what the tail number is to see if it is one of the ones I remember from Langley. I know Aircraft have much more visible tail numbers than tanks do serial or registration numbers but I'm curious if tanks got reputations like planes did. For example 74-119 got a reputation as a Pig for all the problems it had. One time when a pilot came in to debrief after a ground abort on that plane another pilot looked over at him and said 'You need to take a little Hog chow out with you and tell the bird you'll give her a treat if you have a good flight' He then pulled a little baggie of animal food out of his flightsuit pocket. 'Everytime the Pig gives me a good flight I put a pinch right under the nose wheel'

What is even funnier is that years later after I was out of the Air Force I was talking to an E-7 at a PTA meeting. He was at the Pentagon and in the staff that shuffled planes to National Guard and Reserve units. I mentioned that I wondered what had happened to some of our old birds and told him the 4-119 story. He almost broke out laughing. He said he wished he had heard that a month before. They had just finished reassigning planes with some going to the boneyard and some going to other units. he remembered having to decide if 4-118 or 4-119 went to storage or to another unit. They had sent 4-118 to storage and 4-119 to a unit. 4-119 ground aborted on it's delivery flight, had an IFE (in flight emergency) one one of it's first flights at the new unit and hadn't flown since.

_________________
Bob Smart ([email protected])
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail
Hellfish6
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Apr 09, 2006
Posts: 151
Location: Orlando
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- Roy_A_Lingle
HI HF6! Hi Folks!

- Hellfish6

Why do people want to know serial numbers on vehicles? (Serious question)


Helps with tracking the history of many of the different types of AFVs. Helps with keeping up with a vehicle when it is moved from one spot to another. Helps those who are trying to get and kept a count on the number of vehicles remaining.

Some of the members who hang out here find that type of info helpful with their research.

Sgt, Scouts Out!


Good to know. Thanks!
Back to top
View user's profile
Dontos
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 3436
Location: Vine Grove, KY
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:17 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- bsmart
- Roy_A_Lingle
HI HF6! Hi Folks!

- Hellfish6

Why do people want to know serial numbers on vehicles? (Serious question)


Helps with tracking the history of many of the different types of AFVs. Helps with keeping up with a vehicle when it is moved from one spot to another. Helps those who are trying to get and kept a count on the number of vehicles remaining.

Some of the members who hang out here find that type of info helpful with their research.

Sgt, Scouts Out!


Does anyone keep serial numbers of vehicles they crewed or worked on?

I know everytime I see a picture of an F-15 I try and see what the tail number is to see if it is one of the ones I remember from Langley. I know Aircraft have much more visible tail numbers than tanks do serial or registration numbers but I'm curious if tanks got reputations like planes did. For example 74-119 got a reputation as a Pig for all the problems it had. One time when a pilot came in to debrief after a ground abort on that plane another pilot looked over at him and said 'You need to take a little Hog chow out with you and tell the bird you'll give her a treat if you have a good flight' He then pulled a little baggie of animal food out of his flightsuit pocket. 'Everytime the Pig gives me a good flight I put a pinch right under the nose wheel'

What is even funnier is that years later after I was out of the Air Force I was talking to an E-7 at a PTA meeting. He was at the Pentagon and in the staff that shuffled planes to National Guard and Reserve units. I mentioned that I wondered what had happened to some of our old birds and told him the 4-119 story. He almost broke out laughing. He said he wished he had heard that a month before. They had just finished reassigning planes with some going to the boneyard and some going to other units. he remembered having to decide if 4-118 or 4-119 went to storage or to another unit. They had sent 4-118 to storage and 4-119 to a unit. 4-119 ground aborted on it's delivery flight, had an IFE (in flight emergency) one one of it's first flights at the new unit and hadn't flown since.


Bob
In 1988, I was assigned on my 1st M1A1 in Germany as a Gunner. The SN was L6116. For some reason I never forgot that SN.

BTW: I have the 1st round 'aftcap' I fired off that tank still to this day. Makes a great ashtray. HEAT round fired during screening at Range 117A at Grafenwohr.

...and my wife thinks I'm a 'pack-rat'....

Don

_________________
"Gonna hold my breath until Armor returns home..."
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
L.Delsing
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Feb 10, 2006
Posts: 960

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

- Dontos
- bsmart
- Roy_A_Lingle
HI HF6! Hi Folks!

- Hellfish6

Why do people want to know serial numbers on vehicles? (Serious question)


Helps with tracking the history of many of the different types of AFVs. Helps with keeping up with a vehicle when it is moved from one spot to another. Helps those who are trying to get and kept a count on the number of vehicles remaining.

Some of the members who hang out here find that type of info helpful with their research.


And in case of some former Soviet tanks it is possible to identify the type, and date of production.

regards,
Lesley
Sgt, Scouts Out!


Does anyone keep serial numbers of vehicles they crewed or worked on?

I know everytime I see a picture of an F-15 I try and see what the tail number is to see if it is one of the ones I remember from Langley. I know Aircraft have much more visible tail numbers than tanks do serial or registration numbers but I'm curious if tanks got reputations like planes did. For example 74-119 got a reputation as a Pig for all the problems it had. One time when a pilot came in to debrief after a ground abort on that plane another pilot looked over at him and said 'You need to take a little Hog chow out with you and tell the bird you'll give her a treat if you have a good flight' He then pulled a little baggie of animal food out of his flightsuit pocket. 'Everytime the Pig gives me a good flight I put a pinch right under the nose wheel'

What is even funnier is that years later after I was out of the Air Force I was talking to an E-7 at a PTA meeting. He was at the Pentagon and in the staff that shuffled planes to National Guard and Reserve units. I mentioned that I wondered what had happened to some of our old birds and told him the 4-119 story. He almost broke out laughing. He said he wished he had heard that a month before. They had just finished reassigning planes with some going to the boneyard and some going to other units. he remembered having to decide if 4-118 or 4-119 went to storage or to another unit. They had sent 4-118 to storage and 4-119 to a unit. 4-119 ground aborted on it's delivery flight, had an IFE (in flight emergency) one one of it's first flights at the new unit and hadn't flown since.


Bob
In 1988, I was assigned on my 1st M1A1 in Germany as a Gunner. The SN was L6116. For some reason I never forgot that SN.

BTW: I have the 1st round 'aftcap' I fired off that tank still to this day. Makes a great ashtray. HEAT round fired during screening at Range 117A at Grafenwohr.

...and my wife thinks I'm a 'pack-rat'....

Don
Back to top
View user's profile
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:00 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

Joe_D, you are the MAN! You were right on with where to find the serial numbers. All the side plates and the rear plates matched, with D790, being on all of them! The stamping number read "JE01EW". I'm not real sure about the second character but the rest were pretty readable. There were also numbers "welded" onto the turret and front hull, do these mean anything? I could make out the old bumper markings on the front. The left side was; 1-CAV 2-12 CAV, right side was; B-34. There appears to be no engine which is no suprise with the cost of these being huge! I love it when I can ID a vehicle by serial number. However you mention the number should be 4-5 digits. Does this three digit tank mean its a very early model? Well at least everyone can use these picture for reference as to where to look for numbers on future M1's. I plan to hit the other three M1's that are on display ASAP and see how they compare. Thanks again.

P.S. Spotted another "Lingle" today and will get some pictures for Roy soon!

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
SFC_Jeff_Button
Power User

Offline Offline
Joined: Jan 24, 2006
Posts: 1311
Location: Ft Hood, TX
PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:42 am
Post subject: Re: Dontos, 1st Cav Museum M1...

How rare is it for a display M1 to have all the skirts match the rear seial number? I thought htese side plates were "classified" a time back and that display tanks got some sort of "dummy" plates hung on their sides.

_________________
SFC Jeff Button "High Angle Hell"
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Photo Gallery
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Reply to topic    Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index ›  AFV News Discussion Board
Page 1 of 6
All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum