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Tracks and wingy thingys (Picture)
The AFV ASSOCIATION was formed in 1964 to support the thoughts and research of all those interested in Armored Fighting Vehicles and related topics, such as AFV drawings. The emphasis has always been on sharing information and communicating with other members of similar interests; e.g. German armor, Japanese AFVs, or whatever.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:53 am
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Mr. Christie was a gifted foreward thinking designer underappreciated in the US. Most of his designs weren't bought by our government hence no official name. He sold more overseas, particularly Russia

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:14 pm
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Mr. Christie was a gifted foreward thinking designer underappreciated in the US. Most of his designs weren't bought by our government hence no official name. He sold more overseas, particularly Russia

Jeff Lewis


The Ordnance Museum has the only surviving(?) Christie tank I am aware of (not counting any Russian BT-series tanks). Any other survivors out there?

Sorry these pics are a little grainy, they're two years old from my old 35mm camera (before I bought my current digital). Note to self - take new pics of the Christie...

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It's just a hunch, but I think "Ascout" had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:33 pm
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Mr. Christie was a gifted foreward thinking designer underappreciated in the US. Most of his designs weren't bought by our government hence no official name. He sold more overseas, particularly Russia

Jeff Lewis


It's my understanding that at least part of the cause for his "underappreciation" here was the fact that Mr. Christie, like many gifted thinkers was a very difficult person to work with. He tended to resent any changes to or criticisms of his designs. Given that any item intended for government procurement is going to be subjected to all manner of requests for changes and modifications, this made negotiations between the Army and Christie difficult, to say the least.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:48 pm
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- piney
Mr. Christie was a gifted foreward thinking designer underappreciated in the US. Most of his designs weren't bought by our government hence no official name. He sold more overseas, particularly Russia

Jeff Lewis


It's my understanding that at least part of the cause for his "underappreciation" here was the fact that Mr. Christie, like many gifted thinkers was a very difficult person to work with. He tended to resent any changes to or criticisms of his designs. Given that any item intended for government procurement is going to be subjected to all manner of requests for changes and modifications, this made negotiations between the Army and Christie difficult, to say the least.

David


Yep, to him "marketing" took the form of lecturing the evaluation officials. He thought his vehicles/designs should stand on their own, as is - and that everyone should be able to appreciate their obvious value Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:07 am
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That was just a throw-away post to trick any lurkers into revealing themselves as "wingy thing" fans. Looks like we caught one! Wink
(This was easier than giving the Voight-Komp to detect replicants!)


Blast! The truth is out Shocked
Unfortunately winged things almost outnumber ground things on my model shelf. And a couple of water-things in the stash for attention in the future.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:50 pm
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- piney
Mr. Christie was a gifted foreward thinking designer underappreciated in the US. Most of his designs weren't bought by our government hence no official name. He sold more overseas, particularly Russia

Jeff Lewis
The US decided that Christie's medium tanks didn't provide an appreciable offensive benefit over existing light tanks, despite being much more expensive. The US did standardize a tank with Christie's suspension, and were going to use it in the 76 mm GMC M18 until it was decided to use torsion bars, which take up less interior space. Even the Soviets were going to replace Christie's suspension in T-34, but Barbarossa put those plans on hold.
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