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Odd Shermans in Minnesota & at Fort Stewart
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Neil_Baumgardner
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:23 am
Post subject: Odd Shermans in Minnesota & at Fort Stewart

Dan Reed came across the register and sent me some interesting pics of a few Shermans not listed over the weekend...

The first one is at the Minnesota ARNG Armory in Appleton MN

Is%20it%20possible%20it%20is%20a%20Korean%20War%2076mm%20conversion%20of%20a%2075mm%20gun%20Sherman?%20Or%20more%20likely%20just%20a%2076%20stuck%20in%20a%2075%20turret%20for%20display? It%20looks%20like%20this%20one%20used%20to%20be%20at%20Camp%20Ripley Here's%20another%20one%20with%20an%20odd%20-%20fake?%20-%20barrel%20in%20Long%20Prairie%20MN Dan%20says%20this%20Sherman%20in%20Milica%20MN%20has%20an%20M47%20muzzle%20brake?%20Looks%20like%20the%20one%20above%20actually%20as%20well... Another%20odd%20bird%20is%20the%20long%20-%20fake?%20-%20barrel%20on%20this%20Sherman%20that%20Dan%20says%20is%20in%20the%20national%20guard%20training%20area%20of%20Fort%20Stewart

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Odd Shermans in Minnesota & at Fort Stewart

Here are a couple that circulated a couple of years ago, when I was spending time up at Ft McCoy Wi.



I thought these were lost, but my 'back up' files do 'bare fruit' on occasion.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Odd Shermans in Minnesota & at Fort Stewart

Kinda reminds me of the CEV in Corinth MS. Somebody probably thought they looked cooler that way. Can't imaging why a little "Pop-Gun" 75 would ever need a muzzle brake. Some look like came from Pershing 90mm guns.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:42 am
Post subject: Re: Odd Shermans in Minnesota & at Fort Stewart

Interesting stuff - thanks for posting. I know that the MN ArNG used various M4A3s after WW2. When looking at those welded-on muzzle brakes I can't help but wonder if someone had an inferiority complex? Obviously somebody in the shop that was assigned to prepare them for display liked muzzle brakes.

My wild guess is that the M4A1 at Ft. Stewart is a rebuild with a 76mm gun added. These usually show up on M4A3 75mm Wet Stowage types (M4A3E4, like the tanks in "Kelly's Heroes"). It IS interesting to see the 76mm added to the mid-production M4A1.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:51 am
Post subject: Re: Odd Shermans in Minnesota & at Fort Stewart

- binder001
My wild guess is that the M4A1 at Ft. Stewart is a rebuild with a 76mm gun added.


Gary,

You could be right, this could very well be an M4A1E4.
web.inter.nl.net/users...etro76.htm

Hanno
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:28 am
Post subject: Re: Odd Shermans in Minnesota & at Fort Stewart

My first impression was that it was an M47 muzzle brake but looking closer I think it could be fabricated. Just doesn't have that 'machined' look.

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